Who's running peripheral port on their FC?
10-29-04, 09:43 PM
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Who's running peripheral port on their FC?
I've kinda been considering a Peripheral Port on my N/A FC. I was at first leaning toward turboing, but if PP is cheaper/ more reliable, I'll do it. My engine could use a rebuild here soon so if anyone has suggestions on what internals to use that won't decintegrate at 9,000+rpms or what fuel delivery to use (Fuel Injection/Carb) as well as ignition. Also, fill me in with how your setup is for a daily and show some pics. Oh, for all you ****'s ( 
), I did search and found NOTHING useful. My exact search words were "peripheral port FC" and I got nothing useful. Thanks.
), I did search and found NOTHING useful. My exact search words were "peripheral port FC" and I got nothing useful. Thanks.
10-29-04, 10:22 PM
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Peripheral port motors get worn out MUCH faster.
Go to RB's site, you can find the internals there that will support over 9k rpms. You'll need standalone, period. Custom manifolds, everything will be customized pretty much.
This will cost a lot of money.
Oh and is it meant for the street? Probably not, but would I, and other people, still drive it on the street? Hell yah I've always wanted a PP motor thats capapble of going to 10 or 11k rpms, that'd be a fun car 
Go to RB's site, you can find the internals there that will support over 9k rpms. You'll need standalone, period. Custom manifolds, everything will be customized pretty much.
This will cost a lot of money.
Oh and is it meant for the street? Probably not, but would I, and other people, still drive it on the street? Hell yah
I've always wanted a PP motor thats capapble of going to 10 or 11k rpms, that'd be a fun car
10-29-04, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Not streetable
Requires aftermarket EMS or carbs
Your NA drivetrain will break.
-Ted
Requires aftermarket EMS or carbs
Your NA drivetrain will break.
-Ted
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10-29-04, 11:13 PM
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yeah, that what i was gonna say. Your engine wont be happy untill like 9k, due to the valve overlap *i think*. but the brap brap brap is the best sound in the world
10-29-04, 11:14 PM
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Lesse...
Full rebuild
Special apex seals
Block filler
special sleeves for intake PP
better bearings
higher oil pressure regulator
That's like $4,000 minimum if you're paying a good shop to do the work.
MFR PP housings - $1,000+ each x2
Carbs + manifold - $1,000 min
Aftermarket EMS + larger fuel injectors + custom intake manifold = $2,000 min
It looks like minimum $5,000 just for the engine work.
Then you gotta take care of the clutch and auxiliary crap (i.e. underdrive pulleys).
To me, it looks like $10,000...
-Ted
Full rebuild
Special apex seals
Block filler
special sleeves for intake PP
better bearings
higher oil pressure regulator
That's like $4,000 minimum if you're paying a good shop to do the work.
MFR PP housings - $1,000+ each x2
Carbs + manifold - $1,000 min
Aftermarket EMS + larger fuel injectors + custom intake manifold = $2,000 min
It looks like minimum $5,000 just for the engine work.
Then you gotta take care of the clutch and auxiliary crap (i.e. underdrive pulleys).
To me, it looks like $10,000...
-Ted
10-29-04, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by boogerboy
yeah, that what i was gonna say. Your engine wont be happy untill like 9k, due to the valve overlap *i think*. but the brap brap brap is the best sound in the world
10-30-04, 12:19 AM
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why would you need all those parts? why couldn't you just use the stock TB if you made a custom UIM/LIM? You'd still have the same amount of air/fuel going in wouldn't you?
10-30-04, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by powrdby13B
why would you need all those parts? why couldn't you just use the stock TB if you made a custom UIM/LIM? You'd still have the same amount of air/fuel going in wouldn't you?
10-30-04, 12:52 AM
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Read forum first, try to find info, and you wont post that kind of question...
If you dont know how to weld, if you dont know what a PP is, if you dont have rotary knowledge, if you car belong to the road, if you are a student, if you dont have a good job, if you are not part of a racing team, if you dont have spare part, if you dont have time to work on your car, if you dont like to work on your car, if you want a reliable car, if you want to go to the market with your car... forget about it.
If you dont know how to weld, if you dont know what a PP is, if you dont have rotary knowledge, if you car belong to the road, if you are a student, if you dont have a good job, if you are not part of a racing team, if you dont have spare part, if you dont have time to work on your car, if you dont like to work on your car, if you want a reliable car, if you want to go to the market with your car... forget about it.
10-30-04, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by powrdby13B
why would you need all those parts? why couldn't you just use the stock TB if you made a custom UIM/LIM? You'd still have the same amount of air/fuel going in wouldn't you?
The stock TB is too restrictive for a PP.
Please do more research on PP's before asking questions like this.
There's are good guidelines on intake and exhaust dimensions posted in here if you do a search.
Basically, you need a minimum 3" exhaust system.
Think about it - you think the stock TB is going to handle the increase of intake to handle an engine that needs a 3" minimum exhaust system?
A properly built PP 13B will make 300hp at the wheels...
-Ted
10-30-04, 01:03 AM
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Why does everything think a peripheral automatically means not for the street? There are different levels of P-port motors, including something as small as a bridge-port/p-port hybrid... Don't assume every P-port is some huge unstreetable monster, you can essentially make the intake openings whatever size you want, to a point, or as small as you want in conjunction with the normal ports of the motor.
10-30-04, 03:51 AM
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I have to disagree somewhat with some things your saying RETed...
you can do it ALOT cheaper than you first outlined..
and a stock TB would MORE than handle a PP w.r.t its flow characteristics, although only a nut case would try and use it on one. (manifold design)
IMHO a N/A drivetrain wouldn´t immediatly break either, your not increasing the torque of the motor.(at least not by alot).
and P-Ports are generally more streetable than bridgeports, not as much bucking, and look how many street car have bridgeports (over here at least..)
Personal opinion is all this is really.
Personally i would like to have a P-port powered car on the street one day.
you can do it ALOT cheaper than you first outlined..
and a stock TB would MORE than handle a PP w.r.t its flow characteristics, although only a nut case would try and use it on one. (manifold design)
IMHO a N/A drivetrain wouldn´t immediatly break either, your not increasing the torque of the motor.(at least not by alot).
and P-Ports are generally more streetable than bridgeports, not as much bucking, and look how many street car have bridgeports (over here at least..)
Personal opinion is all this is really.
Personally i would like to have a P-port powered car on the street one day.
10-30-04, 03:58 AM
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streetability is entirely a pesonal choice,.. you cant say something is unstreetable for someone else...you can warn them as to what it going to be like though.