I was gonna argue the point but the other guy I replied too took it outta me. Tell you what, I like your thinking and the next time you need parts or even a car come to me and I'll give you a good deal. ~rich

 

Ignorance is bliss. If you're too stupid to read the owners manual, then maybe he should sue Mazda for not writing in kindergarten English.
There are too many bogus BS lawsuits in this country.
Its OK, what comes around goes around. One day, you'll be on the wrong end of a lawsuit and maybe when you mature enough, your opinion will change.

C'mon guys, don't fall for it. He was too cheap. like most Rx7 owners are, to buy what was needed, Prestone!

Gotta run and file a lawsuit against Staples. Just got a paper cut from the printer paper they sold me. Didn't see any warning labels on the package.

Enough said:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/doh-my-radiator-worse-497467/

 

IMO whenever you buy a used car the first thing you should do is change all the fluids (unless of course he has records of it being changed recently) When you buy a car you dont know how long the coolant or tranny fluid has been in there ...

going from your earlier posts though, the guy is a car builder part. It sounds like he put water in the car to make sure it runs or to break it in, not to drive it around everywhere. So from what ive learned so far you should have been more responsible for the fluids.

 

CAVET EMPTOR

The author of this thread is at fault and should feel deeply embarassed by now for writing this thread.

And to give you an idea where I'm coming from, just let me say that I loath Sears Craftsman policy of taking back your broken wrench at no (seemingly no) cost and giving you a new wrench. Those of us that take care of our tools and don't abuse them have to pay for that *FREE* new wrench Sears gives the jerkoff who used a six foot cheater bar on his 3/8" ratchet, and broke it.

 

Nice research - BUSTED! ~rich

 

well thanks for all the imput guys....I think aaron hit it on the head concerning my arguement. Me not knowing the concequences made me feel liek its not entirely my fault..but now I know....anyways me and my buddy are gonna pull the engine (which actually doesnt seem to be in too bad of shape..it runs and hold idle, but the smoek is still there) and see whats lost, and hopefully rebuild it ourselves.

 

sure, no prob...but u can be sure i'll check everything on the car/part or whatever before i give u the money....listen....new car dealers charge u out of the *** for the warrenty..thats why they do recalls.....whens the last time u bought something off the classified and the seller said....1 year warrenty?....
the seller sold a car in running condition and the buyer took the car in working condition....

 

torean is right, but...

if you still feel like sueing, lawyers like me will be more then happy to charge you $300 bucks per hour just to say you have a poor chance of collecting any money.

if you decide to go ahead and sue anyway, that'd be even better. someone's gotta pay for my new coilovers!

 

Even the average joe who works on cars does not tear a used car apart to check for every little thing when they buy it. Especially when it's sold as good working from someone who works on cars. Now think about the person who doesn't work on cars - there's a lot of trust involved.

We're also not talking about the people who could buy a 3 year old mercedes or jaguar; they prolly have the money to pay someone to put it on a lift and give it a once over. We're talking bout people who buy $1,500 - $6,000 cars, get in em and go.

Now I wasn't saying the seller is obligated to provide a warranty. I was saying that if the seller knowingly sold the car with a condition that could cause failure WITHOUT informing the buyer, then he is responsible. (later this was shown not to be the case as the buyer WAS informed but later forgot)

Example: I sell you a car that I say works fine, ready to go. The reality is I couldn't figure out what was wrong with the fuel pump not getting power so I hot wire the pump and discretely run a power wire directly to the fuel pump. You check the car for the usual, looks good, get in it and go. Drives fine. A week later the wire shorts out inside the tank and your tank explodes, covers your car in burning gas and destroys your ride... who you gonna come after?

Caveat emptor? I don't think so - I sold you a car that I said was ready to go but I knew there was a problem and never informed you. I even created a condition that put you in danger.

The safe word today is DISCLOSURE. ~rich

 

I bet you'll take that "cash in hand" too... lol

~rich

 

Not all lawyers charge (at least not very much) for a consultation... it's far more likely that he'd settle rather than going to court.

 

ehh....i think ur example should be.....u hot wired the pump...told me that the pump is hotwired.....i drive the car away.....did nothing....3 month later it blows up...........im not even gonna argue anymore...cause ur not gonna convince me that its the seller's fault...it just isnt..and im sure many people agree with me...sure if the seller sells a car that he proclaimed new and rebuilt then was later torn apart and found out its not..then ok..the seller is an *******...but he knew about the water in the rad and choose to ingore it for a length of time.....and seriously......fluids in the car..thats like u buying a car then when it runs out of gas u go after the dealer for not filling it up when its being serviced......sometimes people should just take responsbilities for their own actions/stupidty

 

Torean: you obviously didn't read my posts or don't understand. I agree with you that it's the buyer's fault because he WAS TOLD about the problem.

YES, I orginally argued that the seller was to blame UNTIL I found out the buyer was told about the problem but didn't do anything about it. Now I agree with you and everyone else.

If you read the topic that started this thread, the poster makes NO MENTION that he was told by the seller, only that he discovered it on his own but thought it was fine because of his inexperience.

My example was only to show that YES, a seller can still have fault for damages regardless of the fact it was bought used. ~rich

 

salt water doesnt freeze!!! just stick some seawater in your engine

 

osiris7442:

Let me break it to you gently: Stop being a whiny-butt ***** and take responsibilty for your life. Some mistakes that YOU make can't be fixed by whining or blaming someone else.

I bet you are always the victim.

I the scope of the BIG PICTURE called LIFE, this is a relatively small mistake.

Learn from it.

Grow up.

Be a Man.

Fake it if you have to.

Pretty soon, it will come naturally.

 

an old girlfriend had a simular thing happen( Undisclosed problem ) Secretary of state said " Buyer Beware in *ALL cases of a used car purchase " *Only time it would not apply is when there is a written warranty given with the purchase.
Just my $0.02

 

A written warrenty would always exclude acts of operator negligence and lack of maintence.


And it wasn't an undisclosed problem. He admitted he was told! He knew. Dude wants to blame the seller for his choice to continue in ignorance for month after month. He can claim ignorance, but really ignorance ended about 5 minutes after he bought the car.

Then it became stupidity.

Stupid is an expensive way to go through life.

Good judgement is gained from experience. Experience gained by using bad judgment.

Welcome to the school of life. First tuition bill marked paid.

 

yes it does....just at a lower temperature....if u let salt water fall below 0*F it'll freeze reguardless

 

I think the point I wanted to make was that where I am EVEN an undisclosed problem that led to a situation such as this would still fall into the "buyer beware" area when buying a used car. "Buyer Beware" means what says, Its your problem the second the sale is completed so you better do your homework BEFORE you buy. I agree that even if there was a written warranty on a used car this would not even begin to get covered.

 

BTW, if you want to continue your education, (pay attention-class is in session) I will give you $500 for your broken down, 19 year-old frozen, damaged goods car.






Shipped.

 

^

 

I did read the rest of the posts, so don't be such an ******* cowboy .

Just because the person bought the car without any knowledge of cars doesn't mean that its the sellers fault. The post had stated that he knew that there wasn't coolant in the system but HE did not know the consequences.

Are you a retard N/A? Because I know that not having anti-freeze in a system will freeze the water in the block and then wreck it. I hope you can understand that? Just because the poster is a tool and didn't understand doesn't mean its right. I beleive the seller ISN'T at fault just because of the lack of knowledge taken in on his part.

His parents or friend should have said something OR he should of at least checked, done maintence, or at least looked at it before leaving it out below sub-zero temperatures. I see that it was his fault and he shouldn't be buying a car at ALL without any knowledge of what he is doing. Torean's example to me was perfect (referring to brakes) and as a mechanic I HATE sue happy people like you .

They should of bought it from a more reputable person or spent some time researching it at least a tad. A check into general maintence would suggest the lack of coolant as a bad thing wouldn't it?

Cars and grocery stores are different considering the costs of a good condition TII is around $2,500. Your ******* milk is $2.76 (you should check the dates anyways). And if I remember correctly we wouldn't pay for a recall. So what IS your point? Comparing cars to food at the grocery store doesn't work, totally different ballpark. Most people can afford $2.76 to be brought back, someone putting in a new engine for a kid that waited months to bring a car back because he didn't put anti-freeze in it during the winter wouldn't really make me feel bad enough for him to take my money for a new engine. Ironic that the $2.76 could of paid for some anti-freeze to save his engine.

Osiris: Man up and stop being a wuss.

 

I like your style too Jager, lemme know if you need any car parts bro, I'll hook ya up. Mebbe computer equip? Just let me know. ~rich