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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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Who is using what boost controller?

Which electronic boost controller are you using?
And do u like it?
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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What question are you trying to answer? Are you looking for one yourself?

I have an Apexi AVC-R, and have been very pleased with it. TONS of features, lots of feedback and monitoring options. It's not for the novice, as it's easy to get lost in the options and tuning abilities it has.

The Profec B is a great choice for an entry-level controller - very reasonably priced, easy to use, and works great.

I plan on upgrading to the new Greddy Profec E-01 when it comes out early next year. It will tie into my E-manage and has even more boss features .

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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dcf3s,

yes i'm looking for one.
people said profec B is the way to go, but the apexi seems like it can do so much more.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Depends on how much you're looking to spend. You can also check out Ebay - I've seen older HKS EVC I's going for like $100 before, and they're excellent boost controllers.

Really, the only one I would say to avoid is the Profec A - it's a piece o' crap. Pretty much any other boost controller from a Japanese manufacturer is worthwhile.

I have seen many people get frustrated with the AVC-R since their skill level wasn't up to tuning it in.

What kind of turbo do you have?

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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i have a stock s5 turbo... looking to do a hybrid with it.

and getting a safc for fuel
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Really, the only one I would say to avoid is the Profec A - it's a piece o' crap. Pretty much any other boost controller from a Japanese manufacturer is worthwhile.
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whats wrong with the a other than it has to learn?

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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I say go with the profec b. I mean what do you need from say the avc-r really? I planned on getting the avc-r but now have decided to go for the profec b. It has what I want, a high and low boost setting. And it has the adjustability of the wastegate response. Plus the fact that the s-afc and avc-r are the same size and have quite a bit larger face than other EBC's. Theres also the Blitz dual sbc and the HKS EVC 4, but they are like $450, up there with the avc-r. I guess it just depends what you need or want to pay for.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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PRofec B here, I'd definately recommend it. Works great.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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I am using the Blitz SBC ID and Pwer Meter combo and I love it.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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You're going to need more than an S-AFC for fuel if you start messing with the boost. The S-AFC is great for tuning down larger injectors, but not that great at tuning more fuel out of the stockers.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Aaron,

any suggestions other then going all out with a haltech?
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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I run a Gen I A'PEXi Super AVC-R EBC.&nbsp I've got nothing but positive results with this unit.&nbsp I've heard the newer AVC-R with the blue screen can be a pain to work with.

The GReddy PRofec (A) has been known to "barf" in it's self-learning with turbos that creep.&nbsp This is why a lot of RX-7's can't get it work consistently.

The Haltech boost controller is a pain to get working nicely.&nbsp If it works for you, then you don't need to mess with it ever again.&nbsp If it doesn't work for you, you'll go through hell trying to get it to work.&nbsp Personally, I'd rather have my boost controller "outboard" of the EMS.



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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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HKS EVC I, as Dale suggested. I've been using mine for about 2 years or so. I got it from Dave Gibson way back. Very nice, VERY easy to use. Again, it can be had for around $100.00 if you look around.

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by j9fd3s


whats wrong with the a other than it has to learn?

mike
it can't learn if you have any creep. if it doesn't go through the learn mode. it won't work. so you get stock boost , and you can't turn it up

my friend has tried to use one in his old talon and in his turbo II. couldn't get it to work in either unless he had the stock exhuast on. threw it on his bedroom floor and ran MBC's in both
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
I run a Gen I A'PEXi Super AVC-R EBC.&nbsp I've got nothing but positive results with this unit.&nbsp I've heard the newer AVC-R with the blue screen can be a pain to work with.

The GReddy PRofec (A) has been known to "barf" in it's self-learning with turbos that creep.&nbsp This is why a lot of RX-7's can't get it work consistently.

The Haltech boost controller is a pain to get working nicely.&nbsp If it works for you, then you don't need to mess with it ever again.&nbsp If it doesn't work for you, you'll go through hell trying to get it to work.&nbsp Personally, I'd rather have my boost controller "outboard" of the EMS.



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I think the sign that the Haltech boost control is a bad idea is the fact that Brian Cain junked it . If Mr. Haltech ditched it, you know it sucks .

The Profec A can only work on cars with NO boost creep whatsoever, which is a very rare situation. A car with stock exhaust could probably work well with it, but most people have already done exhaust by the time they get a boost controller.

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Aaron,

any suggestions other then going all out with a haltech?
720CC secondaries and an S-AFC.
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The Profec A can only work on cars with NO boost creep whatsoever, which is a very rare situation. A car with stock exhaust could probably work well with it, but most people have already done exhaust by the time they get a boost controller.

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i was running it in my t2, with an ungraded turbo and a full exhaust. the boost can creep, but it has to be consistant and with a stock t2 ic, its not easy.
btw, i dont disagree i hate setting up the profec a, once it works though it does fine

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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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720CC secondaries and an S-AFC.
A new high pressure fuel pump should be your first fuel mod. After that if you need more then you should get bigger injectors with the S-AFC.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Yep, that too.
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Old Sep 25, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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woah... didn't expect so many replies with this thread... thanks for all the advice from everyone...

the plan was to have

walbro fuel pump
greddy 720cc injectors
rebuilt with porting with RB streetport template
port the wastegate
safc or maybe greddy emanage... but i dont ahve a laptop right now...
boost controller and call it a day.

the most hp i want is around 275 at the flywheel.

i want to remain around stock levels of modification...
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