what HP are u putting down and do u pass emission?
02-06-06, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Rat
Yep. It sure doesnt. You know why? Because since I already have the T-61, the manifold and the wastegate, I decided to go with a V-Mount configuration. These things take time, so it will probably be a month of so before the car is back again. But hey! Dont hate on the numbers I already made, because this new setup will crush 400 hp.
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but i wont be jealous of your numbers.
my old setup was probably making around your (old setup) power with less lag and more reliability.
i just quitted before i started getting serious and into even more debt
02-07-06, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by slpin
i am talking about a properly FUNCTIONING car... (but i AM arguing with someone whose's car doesnt even run...)
since when did hp affect egr valve?
his question was, how much hp can be had before emission becomes a problem
and my answer was, as much power as you can make out of the stock ports
the most important thing being the stock port and having a cat converter rather than a test pipe.
re-read the title and first post. there is no reason why egr or other factors should be brought up. unless you are suggesting high hp and boost kills the egr valve... then take one off a ls1
since when did hp affect egr valve?
his question was, how much hp can be had before emission becomes a problem
and my answer was, as much power as you can make out of the stock ports
the most important thing being the stock port and having a cat converter rather than a test pipe.
re-read the title and first post. there is no reason why egr or other factors should be brought up. unless you are suggesting high hp and boost kills the egr valve... then take one off a ls1
Your reply sounded/suggested that with a cat in place anything could pass, which we both know is not true. I am glad you did clarify it in the above quoted post.
02-07-06, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slpin
his question was, how much hp can be had before emission becomes a problem
1)How much horsepower does your car have?
2)Does your car pass emissions tests?
I think he is asking 2 seperate questions, not "how much hp can you have and still pass emissions."
I'm not trying to be an ***, it just seems that there is some confusion about what he is asking (or am i the one misunderstanding?)
02-07-06, 02:13 PM
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ok....let me clearify....
one possible answer is....250HP...dont pass emission
or
250 HP with vett air pump and haltech passes emission in so and so state
or
500HP, so illegal that im afride to drive it on the road....
one possible answer is....250HP...dont pass emission
or
250 HP with vett air pump and haltech passes emission in so and so state
or
500HP, so illegal that im afride to drive it on the road....
02-07-06, 03:04 PM
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I never had a dyno test, so I don't know what I put down. It couldn't be very much. I have mostly stock. Just a simple catback and K&N box filter. Had no problems with emissions, but I was afraid I wouldn't pass, but he said I did and I got the hell out of there. I went to the Downers Grove emissions place. I live in Bolingbrook, IL, just like in The Weatherman, so it's a 12 minute drive. Driving conservatively for a long while helps. I wish all states didn't have emissions.
Q. What vehicles are subject to vehicle emissions inspection?
A. All 1968 and newer vehicles except diesel, electric
Powered and certain vehicles specified by law as
Exempt.
Stupid Illinois, what the hell is the deal my car won't build itself earlier than 1987. So I'm screwed.
Q. What vehicles are subject to vehicle emissions inspection?
A. All 1968 and newer vehicles except diesel, electric
Powered and certain vehicles specified by law as
Exempt.
Stupid Illinois, what the hell is the deal my car won't build itself earlier than 1987. So I'm screwed.
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02-07-06, 05:08 PM
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Here in TX, they just have emissions testing on cars 25 years old or less. (meaning that all 2nd gens still get tested)
My only street-legal rex is a TurboVert. It has quite a few mods, but I think the only emissions related mods (aside from full s5 TII swap) are HKS Exhaust, Turbo (16psi), turbo timer and boost controller; as well as K&N Open air intake, HKS spark plugs/wires and a front mounted intercooler. It's putting about 280 to 300 hp (estimate) to the ground and still passes emissions testing (and still has quite a bit more that can be done).
If you don't particularly care about the engine(or cost) too much, I have a friend that essencially gutted the whole engine bay on his 89 TII. It now has a supercharged Chevy 383 V8 w/6-speed transmission (engine is a longblock crate motor from Jegs and tranny was pulled from a WS6), Ford 9" LSD, K&N cold air intake and dual pipe Borla exhaust system. He's putting a little over 650 hp to the pavement and his Rx7 is still totally street-legal, while pulling 10's at the track.
Of course it really all depends how your state deals with emissions. Some states may require that everything remain stock (or newer) where others like Oklahoma dont even test for it at all. Your best bet is to find out what your state allows and see what other locals have done to their cars (rx7 or otherwise).
My only street-legal rex is a TurboVert. It has quite a few mods, but I think the only emissions related mods (aside from full s5 TII swap) are HKS Exhaust, Turbo (16psi), turbo timer and boost controller; as well as K&N Open air intake, HKS spark plugs/wires and a front mounted intercooler. It's putting about 280 to 300 hp (estimate) to the ground and still passes emissions testing (and still has quite a bit more that can be done).
If you don't particularly care about the engine(or cost) too much, I have a friend that essencially gutted the whole engine bay on his 89 TII. It now has a supercharged Chevy 383 V8 w/6-speed transmission (engine is a longblock crate motor from Jegs and tranny was pulled from a WS6), Ford 9" LSD, K&N cold air intake and dual pipe Borla exhaust system. He's putting a little over 650 hp to the pavement and his Rx7 is still totally street-legal, while pulling 10's at the track.
Of course it really all depends how your state deals with emissions. Some states may require that everything remain stock (or newer) where others like Oklahoma dont even test for it at all. Your best bet is to find out what your state allows and see what other locals have done to their cars (rx7 or otherwise).
02-07-06, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slpin
i am in school... i just realized that it isnt the time for me to be focusing so much on a damn car...
Fortunately, for some of us, being a successful student doesn't require as much concentration as it does for others.
02-08-06, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by slpin
his question was, how much hp can be had before emission becomes a problem and my answer was, as much power as you can make out of the stock ports
the most important thing being the stock port and having a cat converter rather than a test pipe.
the most important thing being the stock port and having a cat converter rather than a test pipe.
I and others have had TII's pass with port jobs with most other emissions equipment remaining.
I just met a 1st gen owner with an S5 TII swap run by an e6k. Engine had a port job, hybrid turbo and larger secondaries. He still passed pass smog and made ~330rwhp iirc.
Passing the visual is the most important part because if you can't even pass that part, they won't hook you up to the machine in the first place. Your ports don't have anything to do with passing.
02-09-06, 02:21 AM
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^^^
sigh
i hate dumbfucks like you who just love to argue
wont be long now before everyone here gets a bridgeport and wonder why they wont pass smog...
sure, if you have a ***** port that doesnt exactly change timing... it would be fine. but to say port jobs dont affect port, you are DEAD wrong.
sigh
i hate dumbfucks like you who just love to argue
wont be long now before everyone here gets a bridgeport and wonder why they wont pass smog...
sure, if you have a ***** port that doesnt exactly change timing... it would be fine. but to say port jobs dont affect port, you are DEAD wrong.
02-09-06, 03:24 AM
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the ghetto sled
yeah im all stock except for an open air element intake, ghetto zip tied secondariesand a test pipe.... numbers wise... no idea, but i do know that i break sweat whenever i roll by any pig... also because i dont have a license, or insurance, or front license plate, or cats, or tail lights.... been lucky so far and thatll alll change soon(getting everything fixed here really quick). by the way im in sacramento so the cops out here are really close friends with the cops in stockton who learned how to find modded cars and how to correctly ticket them WHICH IS AN OXYMORON SINCE ONLY A TRUCK UNIT OF THE CHP CAN LEGALLY DO THIS(its in the penal book i read a week ago)! ****** pigs theyll pop your hood out here if you got a different paint job than stock... the only good ones are dead ones... but thats only cuz ive been fucked over and beaten up more times than a pornstar hooked on crack. besides... in places like this city you learn real quick there are alternatives to legal smogs(like russians with smog shops)... hard to find but no questions asked and all is good. anyhow.. everyone take it easy... later...
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*EDIT* for the most part cops out here focus on CRAZY lowered cars and shitty driving.... so its easy to skate around.
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*EDIT* for the most part cops out here focus on CRAZY lowered cars and shitty driving.... so its easy to skate around.
02-09-06, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slpin
sigh
i hate dumbfucks like you who just love to argue
wont be long now before everyone here gets a bridgeport and wonder why they wont pass smog...
sure, if you have a ***** port that doesnt exactly change timing... it would be fine. but to say port jobs dont affect port, you are DEAD wrong.
i hate dumbfucks like you who just love to argue
wont be long now before everyone here gets a bridgeport and wonder why they wont pass smog...
sure, if you have a ***** port that doesnt exactly change timing... it would be fine. but to say port jobs dont affect port, you are DEAD wrong.
As if making an *** out of yourself in the lounge is not enough you feel the need to do it here too?
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507171
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=496270
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=492891
And on and on and on.................
btw, I'm taking this girl out tonight and we're going to talk about sorry-*** online stalkers who can't get a clue.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490090
02-09-06, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slpin
but to say port jobs dont affect port, you are DEAD wrong.
He implyied that there are larger factors than the size of the ports, granted at a certain point the port size DOES largely affect emmissions.....but that also depends on how tight your local standards are
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