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What do you think of this FC HID upgrade?

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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hey you guys, try building this yourselves, and see if you can do a better job. Asses!
If I made an intake manifold that flowed better, but only allowed the engine to run on one rotor, you would knock it.

Call us whatever you like. You asked us if there was interest, and no one is interested in a product that only half works.

I think you need to grow up. Children lash out at criticism with childish insults, and comment of "let's see you do better". Adults accept criticism and use it constructively.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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It wouldn't bother me in the least not having the high beams if the lows are HID. In my opinion even though the regular bulb high beams throw light higher up than the lows, I think you'd still get a better result HID low vs. regular high beams.

The kit looks good too. That bulging eye may not suit everyone, but nobody sees it in the daylight anyway because our lights are the pop up style.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by scathcart
If I made an intake manifold that flowed better, but only allowed the engine to run on one rotor, you would knock it.

Call us whatever you like. You asked us if there was interest, and no one is interested in a product that only half works.

I think you need to grow up. Children lash out at criticism with childish insults, and comment of "let's see you do better". Adults accept criticism and use it constructively.
Whoah, whoah...That wasn't me that posted that comment. I signed on at my friend's house a couple days ago and he just called me telling that it was posted under my name when he tried to post his comments. I guess the cookies weren't erased. The IP adress is different from that particular post and mine.

Apologies to all. :P No harsh words from me!

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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. dbl post.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Adults accept criticism and use it constructively.

I agree. I appreciate all comments, good or bad. Now I know that a low-beam only option won't cut it, so we are working on the bi-xenon conversion now.

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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if this particular board member NEEDS high beams (which most kits don't allow) then swapping bulbs for a day is a no brainer...there should be no cutting or splicing at all...he removes the plugs from the HID kit to his factory harness and tosses a bulb inside for the day. done oh, and I never miss my lack of high beams, the lows are so powerful you'll never need them.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
ok WHAT work is involved in these? I mean all I see is a bulb and a housing. What kind of labor are you guys having to do for them to fit or whatever?
You get an idea of how much time is spent doing a projector retrofit from this post:

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...s&pagenumber=1
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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I never said that an HID low-beam is a replacment for high-beams...I was just responding to your comment about these being totally useless.
Since they only have half the functionality of the stock lights (or H4 replacements), they're useless as a replacement.
It is obvious that high-beams are desired, so we will do the next pair with a bi-xenon projector.
That sounds good. Sounds expensive too...

Originally posted by Mr. Eccentric
In my opinion even though the regular bulb high beams throw light higher up than the lows, I think you'd still get a better result HID low vs. regular high beams.
You don't. High-beams are for range, which you don't get with low-beams even if they are HID.

If your low-beam HID's have the same range as your old high-beams, then you have them aimed too high, which is both inconsiderate and dangerous to other drivers.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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its obvious there is a huge lack of knowledge regarding HIDs & retrofitting

you guys should do some research yourself before you start bashing someone else's hard work


this really is a difficult task with awesome benefits
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 12:19 AM
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Losing your long-range lighting is an awesome benefit?
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 12:58 AM
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im interested on the bi-xenon...What price range am I looking at? "Angel Eyes" on the high beams would be nice too, like the BMW's.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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"Angel eyes" (who came up with that dumb name?) are parking lights. Are you going to pop up your headlights when you turn your parking lights on?
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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here on LI I never used my high beams and now I never have to I don't get flashed by other drivers and thanks to GC coilovers the car is fairly low...like I say, I'll never go back, every time hop into a car without them I just think "how can you drive like this, it's so unsafe" hehe we even put a set on my GVR4 too but that car has seperate bulbs for brights so I was able to keep those (even though I never use them).
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by jon88se
here on LI I never used my high beams and now I never have to I don't get flashed by other drivers and thanks to GC coilovers the car is fairly low...like I say, I'll never go back, every time hop into a car without them I just think "how can you drive like this, it's so unsafe" hehe we even put a set on my GVR4 too but that car has seperate bulbs for brights so I was able to keep those (even though I never use them).
Well if you live enough in the city, you don't even need headlights then, do you?

I think high beams are a necessity. Just turn them off when other cars are coming at you and you won't get flashed.

It doesn't matter how bright your lows are, decent high beams are going to be able to see farther down the road. For anyone who drives fast at night, that's important.

Right now I have Autozone H4 conversion lenses with Silverstars in my FC. The beam pattern is good and so is the brightness. All for less than $100.

There's no way I would be interested in HID without high beams. Especially for that much $$$. I'd rather just jam HIDs into my conversion lenses and have a worse beam pattern.

A dual setup would be interesting though. I'll be watching to see what happens here.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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The only thing that worries me is what kind of draw those zenon's are going to have on the electricle system, I mean those seem to need a hell of a lot of power being so bright and all. Or no?
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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They draw about 1/3 less power than a halogen bulb when they are fully warmed up. We also use a HID-specific harness that hooks up directly to the battery for power. And if you didn't already know, HID bulbs last about 10x longer than a halogen bulb.

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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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so your saying taht while being like 10 times brighter they actually draw 1/3 less than the stock bulbs??
Thats crazy, sign me up!!
oh wait im broke, I cant even afford gas anymore...
Guess ill wait till next year
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