Urethane bushings: Are they worth it?
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Urethane bushings: Are they worth it?
I have been tossing around the idea of installing urethane bushings but have been held back by mainly two things: cost and difficulty in installation. Now I now that they really arent that expensive, but I am wondering if the improvement is worth it. Also, how difficult is the install? Which ones are the most difficult and why?
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Most difficult are the front control arms because you have to cut them off and then cut a metal piece off from around the arm without harming the soft aluminum arm itself. I just made my mechanic do it, and install my coilovers while he was at it. It's hard for me to quantify the benefit since I did the coilovers at the same time, but I think it would be pretty silly to do coilovers and NOT do the bushings...
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I did the bushings also, but in my integra before i bought my rex. Trust me it is definitly worth the money and you will definitly feel the difference. The ride is smootther (beleive it or not) and the car will handle more predictivly. I'm going to be purchasing one myself in a week or two. if you do it by yourself, it is a rather long process but well worth it. just make sure you get your alignement done when your finished.
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the front ones are not hard. couple hours.
the rear ones however have been siting in my closet for 2 years. and I have no intention of trying to put them in unless I need to rip apart my rear end for another reason. just too much work, like days.
the rear ones however have been siting in my closet for 2 years. and I have no intention of trying to put them in unless I need to rip apart my rear end for another reason. just too much work, like days.
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Originally posted by Gene
Most difficult are the front control arms because you have to cut them off and then cut a metal piece off from around the arm without harming the soft aluminum arm itself. I just made my mechanic do it, and install my coilovers while he was at it. It's hard for me to quantify the benefit since I did the coilovers at the same time, but I think it would be pretty silly to do coilovers and NOT do the bushings...
Most difficult are the front control arms because you have to cut them off and then cut a metal piece off from around the arm without harming the soft aluminum arm itself. I just made my mechanic do it, and install my coilovers while he was at it. It's hard for me to quantify the benefit since I did the coilovers at the same time, but I think it would be pretty silly to do coilovers and NOT do the bushings...
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I would do them if you plan on having things apart for some other reason - springs, struts, maybe ball-joints or something. I don't think I'd do them alone unless the current bushings are totally wasted. They will probably be a noticable difference in that they reduce a little slop(yes I've used them a couple times already) but I've never noticed a night and day difference from them over halfway worn stock parts. It's really up to you, how much work do you really "want" to do?
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i definately plan to do this in the very near future, as ive read for numerous reliable sources that stock rubber bushing begin to deterriorate rapidly within 4 years of their use...those control arms sound like a **** though, dunno who im gonna get to do that.
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If you don't have all the necessary tools then it will be a hassle. I did the full master kit and it was quite a bit of work. Tip for you, dropping and reinstalling the rear subframe with 3 jacks made it ALOT easier to guide and maneuver. Also get a vice, will make removing and installing the new end link bushings alot easier.
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I did the sway bars myself, no biggie. The control arms I paid $350 to have them installed. I am glad I did, cause the mechanic was growing grey hair with the frozen bolts and nuts. He had to take off everything in the rear to take out the rear control arms. Once they were out he used a press to take out the bushings, they came out like butter. The front ones he had to cut patiently. Did it make a difference.. I am not sure yet, weather has been too shity to really try them out. Also I did springs and shocks a week before.. so I am pretty much feeling the combined effect of everything. I handles 1000X better though from what I can tell so far. Oh, and you will need a 4 wheel alignment, I have yet to do it. It's only $45 though in the Boogie Down Bronx
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Re: Urethane bushings: Are they worth it?
Originally posted by MasteRX
I have been tossing around the idea of installing urethane bushings but have been held back by mainly two things: cost and difficulty in installation. Now I now that they really arent that expensive, but I am wondering if the improvement is worth it. Also, how difficult is the install? Which ones are the most difficult and why?
I have been tossing around the idea of installing urethane bushings but have been held back by mainly two things: cost and difficulty in installation. Now I now that they really arent that expensive, but I am wondering if the improvement is worth it. Also, how difficult is the install? Which ones are the most difficult and why?
I've installed PU all around my '90 GXL. The rears definitely make a big difference, especially the rear steer elimanator bushings. I had PU bushing in the front control arms too, but just recently removed them and installed the stock bushings. The PU bushings in front just gave to harsh of a ride. They were great when driving on the highway at 80+ mph, but for normal everday driving they were too hard and I didn't like the way the steering felt with these bushings.
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