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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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Ultimate Suspension Bushing Replacement

I have a Master Bushing Suspension Kit on It's way. I plan on leaving the end links alone b'c they are custom made and are no different than Racing Beats Endlinks. They've worked quite nicely for me.

A side from the Master Kit, I have a competition Front Differential Mount and the 2 rear doughnut bushings, for the Differential, on their way too.

What other Bushings can I tackle and replace, rendering my car "rotted bushing free" form under their?

Also, I've replaced my Tranny Mounts too.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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Mazdaspeed motor mounts
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Either new bushings for the DTSS or the eliminator version. Those aren't included in the kit.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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JerryLH3, I should have said I have RB Upright Rear Steer Elimanator Bushings too.

It's been so long since I did them, I forgot to Include that I've done this conversion.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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I thought of another one while skimming through the parts catalog. The subframe mounts. Mazdaspeed offers competition ones, but I've heard that can increase NVH levels significantly. Might want to check those out and decide if they need replacing or not and whether to upgrade or replace with rubber.
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Uh, stupid double post.

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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I'll look Into the Sub Frame Mounts...I'm not following on NVH levels. What does this mean exactly?
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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:54 PM
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NVH = Noise-Vibration-Harshness

he might mean that they would cause alot of racket noise/squeakyness?

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Old Jun 24, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Is installing the master bushing kit something that can be done by a driveway mechanic? What special tools would be needed for the install?

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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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People have done it by themselves, but it's tough. If you have easy access to a hydraulic press, your life will be much easier.

Otherwise, the popular method seems to be torching the rubber, and cutting the sleeves out. I believe most of the bushings can be put back in with hand pressure.

And back to the subframe mounts. Supposedly they transmist more vibration into the car. That's why the subframe was mounted the way it was and why there was a subframe in the FC. All major suspension components are tied into the subframe, and through the mounts, most of the vibrations are absorbed.

I'd try to find someone who has installed them and see what they thought of them before and after.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 08:00 AM
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I'll be working with someone competent In that dept. I remember Installing the Rear Steer Eliminator Bushings. One of them came out with ease, by hand and the other I had to hack off. So I should have a
C-Clamp handy, If anything. Sub Frame Mounts...added to the list. Thanks.
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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check www.harborfreight.com for some pretty good bushing puller tools that really come in handy. they are decent and very inexpensive. great site for misc tools that you will only use once in a blue moon!!
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by DomFD3S
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Just ordered those right now, hehe
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Old Jun 25, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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For the Energy Suspension Bushing Kit, I plan on getting the Bushings for the Front/Rear Control Arm and the Sway Bar Bushings.

For the Front Control Arm - Does the kit come with 2 bushings a side?

For the Rear Control Arm - Does the Kit come with 4 Bushings a side?

The above questions are asked b'c these are bolt on points for the Control Arms.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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I totally forgot to ask, but does anyone happen to know the part number for the subframe mounts?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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The stock part number? I have FB43-28-840. Two required.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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Thanks JerryLH3.

Do you know what the competition part number is?
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Not off hand. Believe it or not, I'm not a current Mazdaspeed member. D'oh! However, I did remember that Mazdatrix sells them too.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/r-sus-2b.htm

They also do give a warning about the Delrin bushings on the subframe.

"ALL engine and suspension vibrations are transmitted to the chassis when these "solid" bushings are used on the subframe."
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by silverrotor


For the Rear Control Arm - Does the Kit come with 4 Bushings a side?


Hmm, I hope someone with the kit confirms this, or your kit gets there and you can tell us, but here's how I see the rear control arm:

Two forward mounting points - one has a bushing and one has a camber link. I imagine this is one of the bushings for the rear.

Three points where the "triaxial floating hub" mounts to the arm - two are bushings, one is a pillow ball. One of the bushings is the DTSS bushing, which you've already replaced.

So, it should come with two bushings for each rear trailing arm, if it really is "complete." But I don't think it has the last bushing:

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=11226
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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The subframe bushings are pretty worthless *** well as the rear controll arm bushings, I installed both of these on my car and it not only increase NVH levels but I didn't see any other benifits from installing them, not to mention there a major PITA
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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The heck with It. I'm getting the Master Bushing Kit and I'll comeback to describe the quantity and location of the Bushings.

I'm getting this kit at wholesale too.

Who rated this thread?
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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I rated it; it's a pretty thorough account of all major suspension bushings. Seems worthwhile to me.
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