BklynRX7

Ok my plan form i started to build my motor was to learn to drive it decently (first manual car) as an N/a then street port and turbo charge it. i was looking online for soem turbo kits and found this one(below) What do you think of it? , what do those options mean (trim/housing)? and what do i have to get in addition to this kit in order to put it on my n/a engine? I already assume i need a tII manifold. Thanks for answers, im just tryna estimate cost.

http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-...ct=003-001-002

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1

you need a lot more than a TII manifold, search.

BklynRX7

Well the kit comes with the turbo and headers, i assume ill need the manifolds to attach ti and soem type of ecetronics to controll it, either a tii computer or aftermarket boost controller. Ive done some searches but find alot of tii swaps but no adding turbo to a n/a motor.

polyfc

i'm doing this to my car right now, you're better off getting a stock turbo. as far as placing it you can either build a spacer from two exhuast flanges and some pipe, because with your na lim the turbo won't have enough room, either that or you get a t2 lim lay an na gasket over it and drill it to match, you still have to figure out the ic piping, which needs to be custom made either way and intake, also have to probably get a s-afc2 from apex. then you need to make sure you run water and oil. you need a t2 front cover fuel pump and injectors. for the oil you might as well go to fc3s.org order their oil pedestal which you can run an oil line into. you can run it back to maybe another oil line, weld a bung on the oil pan or oil cooler. for water you need to attach a line from the back of your waterpump run it through the turbo to the back of the engine. also if you choose to keep your stock lim you need a custom downpipe and you must also use an s4 turbo as the s5 doesn't fit bc of the different hotsides. It'll take a lot of time and a fair amount of money, since you'll have your engine almost completely tore down you might as well replace all the hoses. not to mention you'll need a bov and wastegate if you dont get one with the turbo.. as far as a t2 computer you can use the safc2 i believe, that i'm not entirelysure on. go to www.aaroncake.net he goes through it step by step. there should also be a lot of write ups on this site and teamfc3s.org. good luck and i hope you have something else to drive while you're doing this as it'll take a while

BklynRX7

I just read aaron cakes writeup. I am deciding against this. My new plan is to keep my n/a as a daily driver and drop a 20b into a tii chassis and upgrade those turbos. Should run me 10,000 and take me the next 3 years, but ill start saving and aqquire parts in about 3 months. sorry i didnt search hard enough

casio

you say it very casually.
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html

i would opt for the 13B RE.
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/13b-re.html

BklynRX7

I didnt mean it to sound so easy. thats why I added the part abotu 10,000 dollars and 3 years. I figure if im gonan spend a **** load of money and down my car for a long time i might as well do ti big and make the conversion to end all conversions.

polyfc

i'd opt for the re as wel. 20 b is too much of a hassle for everyday or even weekend use. consider everything you have the change, it's a nightmarish pita. if you have the time but not the money the na turbo is good but if you have the time and more money the re or even the s5 t2 swap is the way to go. good luck either way though man

Jager

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Honestly a 20B swap IS huge, like the others said, try doing a S5 BT or 13B-RE engine (go go Ted's site by the way, it is amazing). A 20B swap requires crazy knowledge 10,000 might be a low type offer, not to mention alot of the little things that need to be done. Also you'll need to do alot of things converting the car to handle that power. Just food for thought.

Also don't forget any labor you may need done.

ddub

$10,000 will not give you a conversion to end all conversions in the 20B aspect. That will basically give you a stock 20B engine with not a whole lot upgrade, not including labor, not including tuning, not including any kinds of install.

You want a conversion to end all conversions and a monster 20B? Think more like 15-20k doing it yourself, possibly more with someone else doing the install and labor. That also doesn't even include a rebuild on the motor or even a port if you want that. This also doesn't include all the piddly little problems you could run into during this whole process. Check out the 20B forum under Rotary Performance on this forum, I'm sure you'll find more information there than in this section.

As for turbo "kits" there is no kit. It's outlined in the faq and has been discussed, easiest way would be to mate stock TII components to the n/a block with a few things needing to be fabricated and a few things changed.

casio

btw - where in brooklyn are you? i was there in late august. i was staying at my friend's place in Greenpoint. i decided that, if i move out there, i'll definately be selling my car and leaving rotaries (and cars) behind me for awhile.

BklynRX7

^^^Im in the canarsie section of brooklyn.Why would you leave rotary and cars behind if you moved to brooklyn?

Well this whole thread was just about throwing around ideas. I just got my first 7, (my first car) and im in the process of learning manual. I know there is no kit, only upgrades for 13bt turbos. You have convinced me to look twords the RE. When I do this( and i know i will because i crave something faster than my n/a) ill probably find a motorless TII and swap in an RE. I know it wont be exactly that easy but this is my plan abotu 2 summers away so im allowed to be vague. Thanks for clearing all this up for me.

casio

i remember seeing Canarsie, possibly in the subways??
i'd be moving outta my house and into some place there. i doubt i could afford rent, food, utilities, and then a car. heh. seems a bit much for a 21 (or 22 then) year old living in nyc. you like it out there?

Aaron Cake

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You're joking, right? I mean, you MUST be joking. Because there's no way in hell that anyone can come to this forum, especially after being here as long as you have, and say that.

READ THE FAQ! There is more information on turbocharging an NA then there is on ANY OTHER TOPIC. And most of it is QUALITY stuff.

I should close this thread right now.

BklynRX7

Yea, the L train runs to canarsie. It is a bit expenive here. especially insurance but im sure you could manage with a decent job. I know people who have.

casio

yea, my friend lives in Greenpoint off Nassau; mainly Polish neighborhood. if i were to keep my car out there (which i'm not), i could park it in the street and once a week park it on the street behind theirs so the street sweeper could come through. my friend's a manager at urban outfitters in manhattan, so he might be able to help me get a job there. figuring up all the prices, i don't see myself keeping an FC (or anything for that matter). sad to say 'cause giving up my "right" to own a car is almost keeping me from moving out there.

but more on topic, here's aaron's site about putting a turbo on an n/a block.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/naturbo.htm

ddub

Supercharger is right on its *** though

BklynRX7

Whats wrong are you scared it will get stolen? The only cars really stolen around here are hondas so they can take the motor for their honda. Any other car is pretty safe with just an alarm. The only car problem you can have like I said is insurance, its high here and even worse for young people. My family has 4 cars right now without alarms. A ford taurus and mercury vilager on the street, a '73 mustang in the driveway and my fc in the garage all with no alarms and the worst that ever happened was someone breaking the window on the minivan once and another time breaking in and stealing the ashtray change. I live in a mainly black neighborhood btw.

casio

heh, where did you read anything about theft? i just plain can't afford it. that's the bottom line and the only real factor. -->money. i wasn't worried about theft. i can't believe you said "I live in a mainly black neighborhood btw." haha, i live in texas and i don't talk like that.
rent will be at least $600 (not sure if that includes utilities); food could be around $400-$600; $70 monthly metro pass; taxis (who knows $$); clothes, etc. i hope to make $1300/month (after taxes). i just don't see any extra money going to expensive car stuff. also i have two $100 loan payments that come out of my account every month.


did you check aaron's site? have any other questions? i started reading it and it quickly turned into a novel i had to put down. he goes through a lot in that write-up.

Aaron Cake

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Thread closed because it's way off topic, and already FAQ material.