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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Dyno results arent the end-all proof youre claiming them to be. Its like statistics, it can be manipulated to produce whatever outcome you want. Its not like the test was from a comparison test of many exhausts from an independent company. It was done BY the company selling the exhaust. And besides, ANY exhaust will make more power than stock(with the exception of pacesetter, but I dont see how they do it...)

I dont personally have any comparison dyno's, but do you?
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
BDoty311- To me MS7 has nothing to show for the collected exhaust. I have asked many times and he has done nothing all of those times. I offered to pay him up to 1300 dollars for and exhaust that he could build for me that would match the uncollected exhaust. He didn't do anything or PM me or nothing. I don't care about IT7 I don't care abour race built cars. I care about proof. Mazdatrix put up that proof and no one else has done that. Until some other company does I will remain supportive of the uncollected exhaust be it home made or sold by mazdatrix.
You have nothing to show, except an advertisement from mazdatrix. Did you dyno your exhaust? Did you compare it to a good single? And since when are all out race cars not proof as to what works good? Generally speaking, they are way beyond what just about any street car will ever be. And people dont put an exhaust on a race car because it looks cool.

Why would I waste my time making you an exhaust? Its not like you would would do an unbiased test on it. And even more, I just dont care. You can believe whatever you want, Im just here to make sure that you dont go around telling everyone that your beliefs are the answer to everything. Ive had plenty of people sending me PM's asking for advice on exhausts. Have you?
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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There isn't a dyno for 150 miles of my town. I can't even tune an S-afc or standalone.

The point is you say something is better that something else and you provide no proof. I can't either for lack of a place to do it. But you don't even have a comparisson to stock numbers. All I want to see is numbers from stock to collected exhaust that match what MT put up.
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Old Jul 26, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Did you compare it to a good single?
Which would be what? Would my ears bleed too?

And since when are all out race cars not proof as to what works good?
Since we drive street cars. We have to keep acceptable levels or noise especially in the areas with strick noise laws.

Also we don't have all the same things that a race car does. We have street parts not race ones.


And people dont put an exhaust on a race car because it looks cool.
We aren't talking about the same people that put S5 lights on their S4 are we? or the ones that wan't body kits? the fact that the RB mufflers or the HKS ones look good is a bonus.

Why would I waste my time making you an exhaust?
Well I think 1300 dollars would make you work for it. If someone offered me that much to do it I would.


Its not like you would would do an unbiased test on it.
I didn't say I was going to test it. We could test it somewhere with people around and swap out the duals. I don't really know how you mess with dyno numbers. I thought machines didn't lie.




And even more, I just dont care.
Then you have nothing to show.

You can believe whatever you want,
I believe proof. Not your word because you yourself said it. No one here is God.

Im just here to make sure that you dont go around telling everyone that your beliefs are the answer to everything.
My statements are not the answer to everything. But you are yet to show that your beleifs have anything more than mine.

Ive had plenty of people sending me PM's asking for advice on exhausts. Have you?
yes I too answer PM's about exhausts. Also about many other problems. I have helped many people on this forum.
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