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Old 06-30-02, 10:33 AM
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Too Rich?

As my car goes back together I am stepping up the fuel system to prepare for future mods. As my finances stand I can only purchase a few parts as this goes back together.

My question is am I going to be running too rich with a Walbro 255lph pump and 720cc secondaries in collaboration with my intake and exhuast. I can afford these two parts but not anything to tune (S-AFC) them. While the car is apart I'd rather replace the injectors now than later. Please advise.
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More than likely you will be running rich. Rich is better than lean though. Just save up and get the s-afc after you get the car back together. Just my thoughts.
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Why does everone seem to think that an S-AFC is a replacement for fuel mods?
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Rich is better than lean, however...

Can you afford the gas? On my vert with with rebuilt, streetported engine, stock injectors and stock fuel pump, I was only getting 6-8 miles to the gallon (don't know why it was running so rich). I had to get the S-AFC installed so I could lean it out just to be able to drive it and break in the engine.

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Originally posted by dre_2ooo
Why does everone seem to think that an S-AFC is a replacement for fuel mods?
I thought the original poster wanted to do the fuel mods. I used one to lean out my engine. I have a Walboro and 720's to put in mine but I don't see the point just yet if I'm running extremely rich.

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Originally posted by dre_2ooo
Why does everone seem to think that an S-AFC is a replacement for fuel mods?
um, replacement??? I said I needed it to control my 720s, not to replace them, hope that comment wasn't towards me...
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It was towards Ryde Or Die... but I guess i was misinterpreting his post.
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Originally posted by dre_2ooo
It was towards Ryde Or Die... but I guess i was misinterpreting his post.
I guess so. I mean get the pump and injectors like he plans, save up and then add the s-afc as well. Just the drive the car rich if he has to to be safe until he can afford the s-afc.
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Frank,

You can always leave the car parked till you get the S-AFC to control your injectors. The pumps is a must with the exhaust you have, injectors are a nice plus while I am rebuilding your car.

Since $ are limited you could go to a blood bank and/or sperm bank and make some fast cash.


I would get the parts and wait for the S-AFC, then I would tune and drive the daylight out of her.
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Mark, answer your cell phone voice mail :P
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what is a "s-afc" and is one important to a N/A model? are there any other ways to lean out a N/A without purchasing one of these s-afc's? thanks!
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Re: Too Rich?

Originally posted by VetteKiller
My question is am I going to be running too rich with a Walbro 255lph pump and 720cc secondaries in collaboration with my intake and exhuast. I can afford these two parts but not anything to tune (S-AFC) them.
Not just rich, very rich! Black smoke rich probably. That's about 15% more fuel than the ECU thinks it's injecting, probably more with the pump. You'll lose a fair bit of power running that rich, making extra boost pointless. Leave the injectors until you can afford the S-AFC (and lay off the boost), but do the pump.
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Re: Re: Too Rich?

Originally posted by NZConvertible
Not just rich, very rich! Black smoke rich probably. That's about 15% more fuel than the ECU thinks it's injecting, probably more with the pump. You'll lose a fair bit of power running that rich, making extra boost pointless. Leave the injectors until you can afford the S-AFC (and lay off the boost), but do the pump.
exactly the conclusion I came to :P
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