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Old 06-07-10, 09:44 AM
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Swapping Front Covers

I have an '86 GXL with a bad engine as well as two S5 engines, one that should be ready to run. I pulled the front cover off the S4 this weekend to get it cleaned up and got the S5 on the engine stand for the swap.

I have been planning on using RTV on the oil pan when I put the new front cover on, but can I use it instead of a gasket on the front cover face as well? Just wondering what the best way is to install the new front cover. Thanks.
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It would work, but using a gasket would be cleaner and have little chance of a leak developing.
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You'll need the front cover gasket to help hold the oil passage o-ring in place.

http://mazdatrix.com/faq/oring.htm
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Originally Posted by Stanello
You'll need the front cover gasket to help hold the oil passage o-ring in place.

http://mazdatrix.com/faq/oring.htm
I remember reading this site but couldn't find it when I tried looking for it again. I think this is why I was thinking silicone to seal the front cover.

Despite reading through that page, I am still a little confused. Since I am using a S5 engine with a S4 front cover, do I use the first recommendation that says to use the o-ring and silicone for a gasket and throw away the teflon ring?
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Originally Posted by THansenite
I remember reading this site but couldn't find it when I tried looking for it again. I think this is why I was thinking silicone to seal the front cover.

Despite reading through that page, I am still a little confused. Since I am using a S5 engine with a S4 front cover, do I use the first recommendation that says to use the o-ring and silicone for a gasket and throw away the teflon ring?
No. Use the teflon ring, the o-ring, and the front cover gasket for the 89-92 engines. The s4 front cover should work fine.
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Originally Posted by scrip7
No. Use the teflon ring, the o-ring, and the front cover gasket for the 89-92 engines. The s4 front cover should work fine.
I thought the site said to do it the other way since I have the "earlier style" S4 housing. Or am I reading it backwards?
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Has anyone else done this swap (S4 cover on S5 engine) that can verify these instructions?
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Anyone? I'm hoping to get the new front cover installed tonight.
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Look at your front iron. If the whole if big, then use the teflon washer. If it's a s4 iron, then just use the o-ring + rtv to hold it in place.

You do what is necessary for the block, not the front cover. S4 iron = no teflon S5 iron = teflon+o-ring. Never needed a front cover gasket for either year. Mainly s4.
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