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Old May 4, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
I have never had any problem with visibility at night. The light is still at the right angle it's just sits lower, light shines through the ftps, there is no break in the light beam on the ground. If took the time to look at the setup before posting crap you would notice that the position of the light never changes it just moves up. The easy way is to pull your fuse, then turn the switch to put the headlights up and then just put the fuse in and out until you get the desired height, then leave the fuse out. No cranking required. Like I always say in these threads, it's an opinion, and he didn't ask for yours, so if you are bashing again, give it a break, he obviously doesn't care what it is cause he's doing it anyway, you're not going to sway him so drop it.

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The visibility IS hindered, I dont care what you think...

And you can't say I haven't tried it so I wouldnt know, because I have. The light is lower and does not project as far on the road. I had a hard time seeing as well at night, it is a fact. And the light that does actually go through the ftps helps minimally at night vision...

Yes it is an opinion, but it is dangerous and does not improve performance.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by dDuB
The visibility IS hindered, I dont care what you think...

And you can't say I haven't tried it so I wouldnt know, because I have. The light is lower and does not project as far on the road. I had a hard time seeing as well at night, it is a fact. And the light that does actually go through the ftps helps minimally at night vision...

Yes it is an opinion, but it is dangerous and does not improve performance.
....I've done it........it is hard to see if you drive in dark country roads......in a city....maybe not too difficult but it does hinder visibility.....I had to pull over and put the fuse back in.......
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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it's not safe. Let's leave it at that, and everyone can stop arguing. I'll post up vids of people crashing if I have to...
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
I have never had any problem with visibility at night. The light is still at the right angle it's just sits lower, light shines through the ftps, there is no break in the light beam on the ground.
Are you honestly claiming there is no change in the amount of light in front of the car? Coz quite a few of us have tried it out of interest and know for a fact that you're wrong...
If took the time to look at the setup before posting crap you would notice that the position of the light never changes it just moves up.
So what? Unless the headlight is fully raised, the body partially blocks it's output. Even the FTP lense dramatically reduces light output, because only a small cone of light can pass through compared to an unobstructed headlight. This is not rocket science! It should not have to be explained!

Last edited by NZConvertible; May 5, 2004 at 05:59 AM.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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Okay yes there is a smaller amount of light that is actually making it to the road, but the light pattern has no breaks in it. I don't know if my lights are just brighter or what, because I have no problem seeing anything at night. The road is lit up fine for me. If you are so worried about the placement of the light, use the adjusters to adjust where it shines. Maybe you guys are just too old and can't see worth a crap anymore. And I'll go ahead and state that, that was a joke, so you guys don't jump on me for another opinion

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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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I'm still amazed people come on to the forum to start a thread on how to do this. Its as simple as pulling a fuse!
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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if you're concerned about light output just wire a switch to make the height adjustable from the inside. Then you dont have to stop to put a fuse in at night or have reduced visibility.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
Okay yes there is a smaller amount of light that is actually making it to the road, but the light pattern has no breaks in it.
Who cares whether or not it has breaks in it. Reduced light is reduced light. The stock headlights aren't that great to start with, which is why a lot of people spend money upgrading them.

Why can't people just leave their damn headlights alone so they work properly! This lack of basic common sense in amazing.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Hi welcome to the world, where people have different opinions and do things they like. Obviously if people see that the nightime vision is still fine, and it doesn't impare their ability to drive at night, and they want to change their headlights to have a different look, and have the knowhow then they're going to do it. I don't understand how you can be so adamant about not excepting the fact that people are going to do things that you don't like or approve of. Have you guys been living in a hole?

- Steiner
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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No one is stopping you from doing it. And we also know that we aren't going to change your opinion if you like the modification.

However, that won't stop us from calling it a dangerous mod (and mocking the mod while we're at it )

David
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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It's not dangerous if you don't have a problem seeing. I don't have a problem seeing.

- Steiner
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
It's not dangerous if you don't have a problem seeing. I don't have a problem seeing.

- Steiner

What about other cars on the road seeing you easily? Sure there is still light, but it is NOT shining it as bright or as far ahead as normal, which *can* impair vision at night (obviously it doesn't for you, congrats!) and it *can* impair the sight of your car for oncoming traffic...
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Um so you have what one quarter of the light not showing if that, I don't see how people can not see your lights. That's like saying that integra lights are dangerous because they aren't as big as ours.

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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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why do the mods continue to let threads like this go on and on and on. fyi with the pivot controller the headlights remain sleepy only when the lights are off. When the lights go on they open to full height as they normally would without the controller.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
Um so you have what one quarter of the light not showing if that, I don't see how people can not see your lights. That's like saying that integra lights are dangerous because they aren't as big as ours.

- Steiner

You aren't understanding the point here...

Sure the AMOUNT of light may only be reduced by say a quarter as you put it, but that doesn't change the fact that the ANGLE of the light is much lower now. When I had the "sleepy eye" headlight "mod" my lights shined about 2 or 3 feet in front of my car, and that was it!! Normal lights shine all the way down the road, there's a big difference no matter what you're trying to prove.

I'm done with this thread now anyways... It really needs to be locked. There should be a thing in the FAQ that says "DONT POST ABOUT THE SLEEPY EYE MOD" or something, because it really has been discussed/flamed/written up to death...
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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I can go out and take pictures of my car. The lights point out as they normally would, they shine out in front of the car. If I had to guess I'd say 20-40 ft I'm not good with distances. But the fact is they shine out as far as they did when the were normal. Maybe you didn't adjust yours up and that's why they shined down. I don't know but I do know that with the way mine are angled I have no visibility issues.

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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by SnowmanSteiner
...I do know that with the way mine are angled I have no visibility issues.
Since the headlights always point directly forward whether raised or lowered (as you've pointed out), I can only assume that you mean you've used the headlight aiming screws to mess with the angle they're aimed at. This is just one dumb idea following another. Headlights should be aimed do that the high-beam is directly level, which sets the low-beam at the correct dipped angle. If you've adjusted yours to aim high, not only have you reduced the high-beam's effectiveness, you're also blinding oncoming cars with your low-beam. Well done.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Shoot... my car has pink eye. I got your sleepy eye right here!
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Pop Hood ..

Pull fuse cover off . Turn on lights when they get where you want pull fuse . Headlights stop where youw ant ..

h00000ray sleepy eyes .. So yea I like them who cares
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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OY people...........seriously........can someone lock this already?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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I did not have to adjust my headlights they were at the appropriate level. My brights shine fine as well, you can see them and they aren't angled at the ground at all nor angled up above 180 degrees. Guess what my lights shine at the same level as stock, I just compared it. The difference in brightness is not there at all, maybe it's the fact that the lights were bought a year ago. I compared this with an S5 with regular lights, and honestly there was no difference.

- Steiner
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Mazda approved procedure for effective sleepy eye modification:



















Hang yourself.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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This thread seriously needs to be put to rest. We all now know everyone's feelings on it. Let people do what they do in their ignorance. Moderators, lock please.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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for so many people who hate these threads about the stupid "sleepy-eye" thing (i hate that name too), there sure are a lot of people posting in this thread.....
post ******!!!!!

JK

good luck, have fun
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Old May 6, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Okay I'm going to make one comment here on all you guys that keep coming in saying it should be locked. Maybe the moderators would take you seriously if you didn't come in say it should be locked then make some snide of comment remark on how you hate the lights. Way to not complete a bull **** sandwhich, if you're going to come in and make a bull **** sandwhich at least know how to do it right. So get off mommy and daddy's computer go look at the civic outside and leave it be, the mods will lock this when they see fit, you coming in and saying lock it lock it lock it, doesn't get it done any faster.

- Steiner
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