Gizmo

this may sounds like a stupid new newby question but I have been asking myself for a few year this question. What are the body difference between the Turbo an NA S5.

-Rear wing looks more backyard on the turbo (unsure, maybe I'm confuse with the S4?)
-Front fender (actually, when looking at NA pics, looks like its mising something. Also, Victoria British has a number for NA and turbo S5... what is the difference here?)
-Turbo has side skirts?
-GXL and Turbo has cool mirors.
-ok... obiviously the T2 hood and rims

anything else? what about the rear fenders?

Icemark

The factory wings are standard and exactly the same for all series 5 cars in North America.

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-Front fender (actually, when looking at NA pics, looks like its mising something. Also, Victoria British has a number for NA and turbo S5... what is the difference here?)
-Turbo has side skirts?

actually the T2 front fenders are only different as there are holes for mounting the side skirts, but other than that they are the same for the NA as the TurboII.

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-GXL and Turbo has cool mirors.
-ok... obiviously the T2 hood and rims

Well again all the Series 5 cars used the same mirrors in North America and the T2 and NA GTUs model used the same exact wheels and tires.

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-anything else? what about the rear fenders?

Nope the rear fenders are the same on both the NA and T2 as well.

So the only difference in the bodys between a series 5 T2 and a series 5 NA, is the ground effects/and the hood.

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

hey icemark, do you have one of those factory brochure things (that have the specs for the different models) for an S5?

Gizmo

hum... so its a 5 pieces wrap-around?

thanks for the info

Icemark

yeah I have a '90.

I am going to offer the whole set on CD pretty soon, for like $5 a CD, I'll let everyone know when.

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

well why dont you scan it in for me real quick

wptrx7

besides not having a turbo what are other differences? suspension? transmission? etc.

luigi
seriously i don't know, i'm a 3rd gen owner looking for a s5. even willing to trade my 3rd gen for one.

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

interesting. more FD owners should think like you

but really, why are you thinking of trading?

NZConvertible

The biggest difference between the engines is that the NA's are 6-port and the turbos are 4-port. Compression's a little lower in the turbos, and things like the oil pump and radiator are bigger. The entire drivetrain (clutch, gearbox, driveshaft, diff and axles) is stronger, and I believe some of the suspension components are stronger too.

silverrotor

iTrader: (1)

Radiator Is bigger?...I didn't know that.

wptrx7

thinking of it simply because i can't see myself driving a stripped fd, but i can with a fc. i want to use the car mainly for track use and when i'm in the fd i think, i want to add a body kit kit, add go fast parts, and have a nice system. alot of people told me to keep the car and just take your time, but i have been abused by my wife, friends and family into thinking that whats the point of having a car that you can't drive. i feel i can get more done with the fc than i can with the fd simply because i will be more focused on one objection than multiple.

if this made no sense to some of you feel free to flame, i know you will. and i don't mean this to be offensive to any fc owner (as if your car was only good for track use). i actually brought my fd because i was interested in rotary engines and the 3rd gen is all i knew. i was given an opportunity to hold a fc for a couple of days (and it was n/a s5) and i actually liked coming out of the house and seeing it and driving it. it felt more comfortable (not just room or interior wise, but over all).

so if anyone knows any s5 t2 owners that are willing to trade and add cash i willing.

luigi

Icemark

Radiators are the same for NA and T2. The T2 does not use a bigger radiator.

Suds7

What about suspension? And my 1991 na has side skirts from the factory.

NZConvertible

So how come the coolant capacities in the FSM are 7.3L for the NA and 8.7L for the turbo? The turbo's coolant lines certainly wouldn't hold 1.4L so I always figured it must be in the radiator.

Icemark

well the T2 and NA use the same exact P/N radiator, in fact the only different radiator is the one used with a auto tranny.

I would assume the minor (1.4 L) extra coolant would be the coolant lines for the turbo itself.

NZConvertible

You need 44m (145') of 1/4" ID hose to hold 1.4L, so I don't think it's that...

Icemark

Well I suspect the real reason is that Mazda made a mistake in the 87+ specs, since when the T2 engine came out Mazda relocated the overflow coolant bottle, with a bigger bottle in a different location. Could be they never updated the specs books to reflect that on the NA, even though the NA got that bigger and relocated overflow bottle.

If you check the 87 T2 suppliment (Mazda P/N 9999-95-024B-87, page 3-3), you see that Mazda says that the only differences and non-interchangeable parts between a Turbo and Non-turbo in the cooling system is the water pump and the water return pipe for the turbo.

So any other capacity changes would be in the motor itself.

The fact that there is no P/N for a different Turbo radiator, agrees with either statment.