What does DTSS stand for......
Where is DTSS bushing located.......

well let me describe what happened to me

On my way home from work the other day i was driving @ 60mph. Well all of the sudden my car started shacking really bad. *(sounded like metal hitting metal)* As i slowed down the metal to metal sound was reducing. when i got to a stop, the hitting sound stopped. i turned down the music, and listened as i rolled n first. It was metal to metal hitting and i narrowed it down to the rear end of the car. as i drove faster the hitting was hitting faster. i was able to shift easily w/o ne problems. i honestly i thought i busted my rear end, then i heard about DTSS. so now i'm as confused as ever now.

in the past i would b racin round on da highway or sumthin and i would hit a bump at 100mph and my rear end would slide outa lil, *scared da **** outa me*(i dont drive past 100, since that day) it constantly does that. it constantly slides to the side drivin faster than 40mph. i'm gonna have some extra money this upcoming month and im not gonna have anything done to my car until i know exactly what the problem is. so please help me out, if it is the DTSS bushings, then where are they located at so i can remove them or whatever i have to do to fix the problem.

Please help me out. i'm completely lost on this whole situation. well catch u l8rz

Manuel

PS:i'm drivin my dads car so i dont *** it up more than it already its.

 

DTSS dynamic tracking suspension system

Can't do this.

Sounds like the rear u-joint on the driveshaft to me.


Dtss is a system to correct an inherent flaw in semi trailing arm suspensions, toe out during hard cornering. The DTSS bushing allows the toe out too occur at lower G force levels to aid turn in feel, but switches to toe in under hard cornering to stabalize the car. Without DTSS the car would handle more like an old 911, tail happy.

 

my tires are set up like(well were like this when i got them)
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something like that. they are always like that and have always been like that.

 

Worn our DTSS.

99.9% of 2nd gens (since most people are concerned about straightline speed) have a useless and potentially dangerous rear suspension by now.

Whatever your metal on metal sound was, it's not because of your worn bushings in the rear suspension.

 

The DTSS bushings on my car are worn out and useless, too. I thought they caused the rear wheels to angle in like that.

It turns out that's how they came from the factory. Your rear wheels were like that when the car was sold to it's first owner.

 

the DTSS was also tuned for a bridgestone potenza re-71 from 1985, if you dont have those tires, its not working like it should

 

wow learned something new for today

 

I disagree, as more tire grip shouldnt affect the system at all. The transition should still occur at the same G number, and stay that way regardless of how many more G's you add.


Way to many people blame everything on the dtss system. I would say most of these problems are overall worn suspension, not just the dtss. Most people don't even know what it actually does or why it is actually there,..

 

thats why most just eliminant it like myself

 

ujoints would be my first guess.

kevin.

 

hey buddY!!!!!!^^

 

most people eliminate it because there is an "upgrade part" avaliable and people blindly buy things like that.

 

+1
Especially if the sound gets fastr as your speed gets faster.

 

no actually its for those who like a tighter and more predicible rear end and for those who dont like the extra turning the rear steer offers you. it is not just like hey there is part i can spend money on for no reason use your haed

 

I don't see people running off to remove the toe control links on multilink rears, or the Weissach links on 928's, or the kinematic toe correction system on 964 911's (nearly exactly the same, using elastic outer trailing arm mounts)

All thoose things do exactly the same thing,..

Removing the dtss basically brings you back to 70's suspension technology. It also makes the car less predictable,.. not more.

If you are sure it's the problem, or you prefer a car with alot more rear end activity, by all means replace them. I feel that they get blammed for FAR to many problems then they actually cause and generally get replaced because they are one more thing to spend money on.

 

I've owned my turbo car since almost new. DTSS sucks when new and gets worse from there. Changing it for the bushings made turn more predictable and slides way more predictable. With those improvements, I don't care if it's '70's suspension or 50's suspension, DTSS sucks. I put the bushings on the 'vert a couple of weeks after I got it and it's much better too.

 

+1

 

thank you some one who knows what they are talking about i dout he even has eliminanted his or driven one with them eliminated so he has no idea what hes talking about and im sure we spent money on something for no reason lol

 

anyone got a picture of where the dtss is located

 

go to mazdatrix.com under suspension then go to rear suspension

 

It's located on the hub of the rear.

I've gotten mine to kick in once, taking a turn rated @ 45 @ around 80 mph. It was one of the most frightening things I've ever experienced... due to an oncoming car, as well...

If it's not functioning like it should, I would replace it. I plan on doing it myself, when I get around to it.

And if you are replacing those, you might as well replace all the cracked, worn out, old bushings along the rest of the car, as well.

James

 

true but in order to replace the dtss i believe you have to buy a new knuckle according to mazdatrix so unless you fork out alot of money it is much cheaper just to eliminate the bushing

 

Ok, while everyone is arguing on here about DTSS.

Have you actually looked underneath the car?

I would suspect the main camber link is broken. Especially if you really do have bad negative camber.I think its on the passenger side of the rear suspension. A member how had an aftermarket camber link had noticed knocking and extreme negative camber on his car and the bolt was missing out of the link on one side.

Also don't rule out the front differential mount.

 

i'm not blaming the DTSS system.....honestly i thought i busted my rear end. And before i start blowing money into the air on parts i want to figure out what exactly is wrong with my car. i know my suspension is shot, and that is next on my list to b upgraded along w/ poly bushings. i have been asking around givin my story to different forums and several people metioned the DTSS system. i didnt even know what it was until i was told about it. i have been reading up on the DTSS, and have a fair knowledge on the subject. it is a great possibility that this is the problem, but all the information i do know about it, doesnt state where do i look to find the problem, what its supposed to look like, what it'll look like if its busted. all this information i am still looking for. someone mentions rear passenger side, but i'm still lost. i need more details on where, and what to look for.

ALL my knowledge that i have on the fc's is mostly around the engine. not really knowledgeable on tranz, rear end, etc. when i did look at the bottom of my car, i didnt know what to look for. if you can please help me. so i can find the actual problem w/ my car and fix it.

All help is GREATLY APPRECIATED

THNX

Manuel

 

In Japan, DTSS eliminators are considered to be "common sense" when it comes to FC tuning...

Thank god mine came with them installed already...