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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Opinion is that if a driver gets used to the DTSS system, he can be faster around a track than without it.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Yes, but then again, the RX-8 has an even more advanced suspension than the FD, yet it doesn't have rear-steer either.

Also, I have to say that drift cars aren't "trying to lose traction," they're just set up in a way that they're easily controllable during drifts. If they had poor rear traction, they'd be impossible to drive. And MOST of the drift cars also make damn good time trial cars as well (although they aren't set up for it, in particular, and usually run with high-grip street tires).

And while rear steer might make a car feel nimble, and stable during normal street driving, or autocrossing, there is simply no way a rear end that decides where it wants to go by itself has a place on a track, or any sort of high-speed driving.... and if you'd like another fruitless comparison, how many race cars, especially Formula cars, have rear steer? Formula 1 teams do anything and everything that isn't against the rules, but only if gives them an advantage. Much of the best automotive technology comes from racing. Rear steer obviously didn't.

As it stands, if you've got a worn out DTSS hub, you're better off eliminating it if you don't have the cash to pay for the new hubs, and while your at it, it would be a very good idea to get new bushings... since they become the weakest link in the suspension (besides the tires...), assuming your bearings and linkages are in good working order.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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ok, ok ok, ok, lets stop the arguments. i finally got ahold of a madzatrix tech. i explained what happened w/ my car, what the sounds sounded like etc. he told me that it could not be the DTSS. he said to check the DTSS, lift the car and move the tires toe. If it moves then the DTSS bushing is worn out. well the tech said the only that that can make a metal to metal sound, and the sounds slowing down as i decelerated and picked up as i accelerated, was the ujoints n the drive shaft. he explained how to check it out and how to go from there. so this sunday i'll let everyone know on my progress w/ evry thin. now that i finally heard what i had to hear, i'm headin to the junk yard this sunday to pick up a few parts. and hopefully by monday have my car up and runnin again. (ALRIGHT). well catch u guys l8rz. THANX ALOT FOR THE INFO. it was really educational for myself and i bet for others as well. I APPRECIATE AND WANT 2 THANK EVRY1 WHO HELPED AND LEFT AN OPINION. so THANX ALOT.

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie
Yes, but then again, the RX-8 has an even more advanced suspension than the FD, yet it doesn't have rear-steer either.

Also, I have to say that drift cars aren't "trying to lose traction," they're just set up in a way that they're easily controllable during drifts. If they had poor rear traction, they'd be impossible to drive. And MOST of the drift cars also make damn good time trial cars as well (although they aren't set up for it, in particular, and usually run with high-grip street tires).

And while rear steer might make a car feel nimble, and stable during normal street driving, or autocrossing, there is simply no way a rear end that decides where it wants to go by itself has a place on a track, or any sort of high-speed driving.... and if you'd like another fruitless comparison, how many race cars, especially Formula cars, have rear steer? Formula 1 teams do anything and everything that isn't against the rules, but only if gives them an advantage. Much of the best automotive technology comes from racing. Rear steer obviously didn't.

As it stands, if you've got a worn out DTSS hub, you're better off eliminating it if you don't have the cash to pay for the new hubs, and while your at it, it would be a very good idea to get new bushings... since they become the weakest link in the suspension (besides the tires...), assuming your bearings and linkages are in good working order.
Hey, anything that lets you go faster around a track on the car that you have is good in my book. Regardless of where it came from, as long as it's legal and I can use it, it's good.
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