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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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quick clutch/trans ?

so yeah, i just got a S5 TII motor and and an S4TT trans....should the clutch form the S5 clutch fit the splines on the trans and should the disk and PP be the same size as the S4???

i tried to swap my S4 Clutch masters clutch to the S4 TII motor and and the clutch disc on the S4 is larger than the S5 which i think is rediculous!! but yeah so i tried to use the clutch that the motor came with and yeah....splines on the clutch disc dont match the trans!! could this be an N/A clutch or is the S5 differetn?? if so is my only option getting a new trans or do they make clutches that work with the swap???

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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also is it true that the manuals dont have counter weights??? cause i am looking at a light weight flywheel but if i can use my S4 that would be cool.....im lookin at this site right now....

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_...roducts_id=101 or does that mean i have to get one from one of thoes as the one on the manual trans is intigrated into the flywheel??
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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I want a lightweight flywheel and I was wondering the same thing...

do you need to change anything if you swap the oem flywheel with a lightweight one?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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The flywheel has a counterweight built it. You need to at least use the flywheel from your specific series, since the rotors have different weights. Ideally, you would use the flywheel that the assembly was balanced with or have the assembly balanced.

btw, that MC Chris song is f'ing hilarious.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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well on that site it says that the flywheel is the same for the S4 and S5 so im guessing i got a N/A clutch/flywheel set up now....
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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The flywheel has a counterweight built it. You need to at least use the flywheel from your specific series, since the rotors have different weights. Ideally, you would use the flywheel that the assembly was balanced with or have the assembly balanced.

btw, that MC Chris song is f'ing hilarious.
was that supposed to be counterweight???
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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An aftermarket flywheel will be the same, but you have to use the counterweight from an auto trans car from your series car.

I think you got N/A...

http://mazdatrix.com/faq/flywheel.htm
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Something is really fucked up here...

All Turbo II transmissions have the same input shaft specs.
It sounds like you got a non-turbo trans???

The clutches should all be the same for all the Turbo II's.
The Mazda OEM clutch discs are different thicknesses, but almost all the aftermarket clutches are identical whether it be Zenki or Kouki.


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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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no the trans is forsure TII it matched up with all the clutch and stuff when replaced i think i remember the guy saying the Flywheel was n/a cause its lighter or some **** like that...cause i remember asking....so yeah i need a new flywheel and ill use my same clutch then!

thanx guys, i though something was messed up there! lol
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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That's screwed up.
I wouldn't think the clutch would work correctly with the non-turbo clutch, cause the dimensions are different.


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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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yeah same here, idk though i am looking for a counterweight now though...gunna have to dip into the coil-over money
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hold up a sec...

if I were to say, buy a ACT lightweight steel flywheel would I need to get some sort of counterweight for it?

http://www.nipponpower.com/view.phtm...in%3A+Flywheel

it says that the counterweight is required, but do FC's (s4 TII specifically) come with one already from the factory?

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btw, that MC Chris song is f'ing hilarious.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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the counter weight is incorperated into the stock flywheel on all manual rotarys!! so yeah, it comes with one from the factory, but if ur gunna upgrade to a light weight flywheel then u need to get a counter weight!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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damnit, the counterweight is almost as expensive as the friggan flywheel
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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yeah isnt that a kick in the nuts!!! lol im lookin for a used one first!!! hehehe
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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lol, rotaries have many surprises

so, now that it has been established that I need a counterweight, will any counterweight do?
I would imagine that I need a counterweight that goes with the lightweight flywheel? or would say, an s5 counterweight work?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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can anybody shed some light on this?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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u will need the counterweight that corrisponds with the engine so if u have an S4 ull need an S4 counter weight and S5 for S5......i think S5 and S6 (FD) are the same but not sure.....
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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damnit, the counterweight is almost as expensive as the friggan flywheel
get one from atkins rotary or used
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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ok, so its specific to the engine, THANK U!
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