Quick A/C question?!
08-11-07, 02:24 AM
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Quick A/C question?!
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Okay so say I spring an R-12 leak under my air filter from the filter chafing on the line.
As much R-12 that would drain through that line has already drained leaving my system almost empty.
I bought a 4 pack of Freeze 12.
-- Am I safe to just pump that **** right into my system? Will the air in the line/system **** anything up? If so how do I rid the system of the air that may have gotten into it?
-- How many 12oz cans will it take to get my system going? A good amount leaked out but I have 4 cans on the way. Should I just pump it in until the A/C pressure sensor triggers enough pressure and my compressor clutch kicks in (The place I ordered it from didnt have any kits with pressure guages
)? Or should I go past that like half/whole bottle more?
Whatever help and advice y'all want to give would be great.
Please do not be elitist to me if you can magically turn up with a thread stating exactly the same thing, I searched around and didnt necessarily find anything suiting my informational needs without scouring back to the dinosaur threads.
Okay so say I spring an R-12 leak under my air filter from the filter chafing on the line.
As much R-12 that would drain through that line has already drained leaving my system almost empty.
I bought a 4 pack of Freeze 12.
-- Am I safe to just pump that **** right into my system? Will the air in the line/system **** anything up? If so how do I rid the system of the air that may have gotten into it?
-- How many 12oz cans will it take to get my system going? A good amount leaked out but I have 4 cans on the way. Should I just pump it in until the A/C pressure sensor triggers enough pressure and my compressor clutch kicks in (The place I ordered it from didnt have any kits with pressure guages
)? Or should I go past that like half/whole bottle more?Whatever help and advice y'all want to give would be great.
Please do not be elitist to me if you can magically turn up with a thread stating exactly the same thing, I searched around and didnt necessarily find anything suiting my informational needs without scouring back to the dinosaur threads.
08-15-07, 02:00 PM
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You have to get the system evacuated with a vacuum pump first. I would also recommend replacing the receiver/drier at this time... they are cheap but can be hard to find for this car though.
08-15-07, 07:31 PM
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If you have air in the system you must evacuate it, or the performance of the A/C will suffer. Go to an A/C shop, hand them the Freeze 12, and have them do everything. Or at least have them evacuate the system, if that's so much cheaper than having them do everything (I doubt it, but I have no idea). If the shop says, "Wth is that stuff, I'm not touching it", just find another.
Your random vacuum pump won't be strong enough to get all the air out. A good vacuum pump will be harder to find and more expensive. Plus you'll have to look up how strong of a vacuum you need.
Your random vacuum pump won't be strong enough to get all the air out. A good vacuum pump will be harder to find and more expensive. Plus you'll have to look up how strong of a vacuum you need.
08-15-07, 07:48 PM
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soooo... I dont know why no one said this. if your pretty sure you have a leak under the air filter. when you put new r12 into the system dont you think this is just gonna leak right back out. I know rotaries arnt good for the enviroment but your def not helping. I would fix the leak then evacuate the system to remove air and moisture. HOld a vacuum on the system to check for large leaks and remove and excess refrigerent. Then refill the system. Rough rex is absolutly right you should replace the reciever/drier not only is it old but being that you have a leak this will allow air and moisture into your system which will kill the desicant in the reciever drier.
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OR. you could do what i did just remove the entire AC system... no more leak problem. O about refilling the r12 from one of those little cans that you get at your local napa most of the time there garbage if you already have some refrigerent in the system they dont mix well. and they contain all kinds of other addatives. This is what ive heard.
08-15-07, 10:59 PM
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i did repair the leak, i did not however replace the hose. i put aircraft grade tin and perfect size hydraulic hose clamps (about 10) on it with R2 tape and sealant, got it all from work 
i love the air force for its cool effective aircraft materials (for my car)..
i will look for a place to vacuum me out.
and i can change the desiccant in the receiver/dryer with the stuff we use in our aircraft if its simple to open up and all.
thank y'all for your help. i thought this thread was a lost cause the first time i wrote it, it just took a 'bumpish' post because it got lost though. your help is always appreciated.
i love the air force for its cool effective aircraft materials (for my car)..i will look for a place to vacuum me out.
and i can change the desiccant in the receiver/dryer with the stuff we use in our aircraft if its simple to open up and all.
thank y'all for your help. i thought this thread was a lost cause the first time i wrote it, it just took a 'bumpish' post because it got lost though. your help is always appreciated.
08-16-07, 05:50 AM
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i did repair the leak, i did not however replace the hose. i put aircraft grade tin and perfect size hydraulic hose clamps (about 10) on it with R2 tape and sealant, got it all from work i love the air force for its cool effective aircraft materials (for my car)..
i will look for a place to vacuum me out.
and i can change the desiccant in the receiver/dryer with the stuff we use in our aircraft if its simple to open up and all.
thank y'all for your help. i thought this thread was a lost cause the first time i wrote it, it just took a 'bumpish' post because it got lost though. your help is always appreciated.
i love the air force for its cool effective aircraft materials (for my car)..i will look for a place to vacuum me out.
and i can change the desiccant in the receiver/dryer with the stuff we use in our aircraft if its simple to open up and all.
thank y'all for your help. i thought this thread was a lost cause the first time i wrote it, it just took a 'bumpish' post because it got lost though. your help is always appreciated.
BTW, if you 'got it all from work' and you work for the Air Force, does this mean that you stole from the US Government? Holy crap man, if you are going to steal, steal the materials to fix the problem correctly! That way while you are in Leavenworth you will know that the car is running right.
Next on the to do list: steal some desiccant so we can half-*** the drier as well.
Seriously, think about what you are doing. You can buy that hose for chicken scratch on the forum. I saw an entire a/c system for $100 the other day. The new drier is $30-40 at any parts store.
Don't become/continue to be a petty thief over your car.
If you insist on remaining on the path to thiefdom, then at least stop posting about it on the internet on a public forum.
08-16-07, 07:08 AM
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UGH theres always one of you people out there isnt there.
Listen up I did not STEAL any of my supplies to repair the aluminum line. And nobody fixes aircraft with **** like this, we waste your money on brand new expensive parts- to ensure it flies perfect.
these small bits and pieces that i acquire are scraps. Scrap tin clippings to large piece that was used, R2 tape bits and pieces that are a useless size on an aircraft but a perfect size for my line, useless sealant that is outdated for any use on the aircraft- used to glue things on in the truck (bottle was returned), desiccant poured out and microwaved (you can microwave desiccant and the moisture sinks out of it to the bottom and it becomes new, but not good enough for the aircraft), All these materials were trash- NOT EVEN GOOD TRASH. I didnt take them out of supply and come home with a box full of massive amounts of things to fix my car- that is impossible because we can only order what the job calls for. We dont recycle any of it either, its dumpster trash. I am not stealing from the government, you need to settle down there hoss. This is why I feel comfortable posting about it on a public forum.
And no I cant afford parts, $80 for a new hose and drier IS too much for me. I dont make **** doing what I do. So excuse me if your making bank over there on your high horse. An effective "rig" and a solution to replacing desiccant IS effective for me. I am not going to triple my $40 project cost when my "rig" gets the job done well.
Listen up I did not STEAL any of my supplies to repair the aluminum line. And nobody fixes aircraft with **** like this, we waste your money on brand new expensive parts- to ensure it flies perfect.
these small bits and pieces that i acquire are scraps. Scrap tin clippings to large piece that was used, R2 tape bits and pieces that are a useless size on an aircraft but a perfect size for my line, useless sealant that is outdated for any use on the aircraft- used to glue things on in the truck (bottle was returned), desiccant poured out and microwaved (you can microwave desiccant and the moisture sinks out of it to the bottom and it becomes new, but not good enough for the aircraft), All these materials were trash- NOT EVEN GOOD TRASH. I didnt take them out of supply and come home with a box full of massive amounts of things to fix my car- that is impossible because we can only order what the job calls for. We dont recycle any of it either, its dumpster trash. I am not stealing from the government, you need to settle down there hoss. This is why I feel comfortable posting about it on a public forum.
And no I cant afford parts, $80 for a new hose and drier IS too much for me. I dont make **** doing what I do. So excuse me if your making bank over there on your high horse. An effective "rig" and a solution to replacing desiccant IS effective for me. I am not going to triple my $40 project cost when my "rig" gets the job done well.
08-16-07, 11:32 AM
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UGH theres always one of you people out there isnt there.
Listen up I did not STEAL any of my supplies to repair the aluminum line. And nobody fixes aircraft with **** like this, we waste your money on brand new expensive parts- to ensure it flies perfect.
these small bits and pieces that i acquire are scraps. Scrap tin clippings to large piece that was used, R2 tape bits and pieces that are a useless size on an aircraft but a perfect size for my line, useless sealant that is outdated for any use on the aircraft- used to glue things on in the truck (bottle was returned), desiccant poured out and microwaved (you can microwave desiccant and the moisture sinks out of it to the bottom and it becomes new, but not good enough for the aircraft), All these materials were trash- NOT EVEN GOOD TRASH. I didnt take them out of supply and come home with a box full of massive amounts of things to fix my car- that is impossible because we can only order what the job calls for. We dont recycle any of it either, its dumpster trash. I am not stealing from the government, you need to settle down there hoss. This is why I feel comfortable posting about it on a public forum.
And no I cant afford parts, $80 for a new hose and drier IS too much for me. I dont make **** doing what I do. So excuse me if your making bank over there on your high horse. An effective "rig" and a solution to replacing desiccant IS effective for me. I am not going to triple my $40 project cost when my "rig" gets the job done well.
Listen up I did not STEAL any of my supplies to repair the aluminum line. And nobody fixes aircraft with **** like this, we waste your money on brand new expensive parts- to ensure it flies perfect.
these small bits and pieces that i acquire are scraps. Scrap tin clippings to large piece that was used, R2 tape bits and pieces that are a useless size on an aircraft but a perfect size for my line, useless sealant that is outdated for any use on the aircraft- used to glue things on in the truck (bottle was returned), desiccant poured out and microwaved (you can microwave desiccant and the moisture sinks out of it to the bottom and it becomes new, but not good enough for the aircraft), All these materials were trash- NOT EVEN GOOD TRASH. I didnt take them out of supply and come home with a box full of massive amounts of things to fix my car- that is impossible because we can only order what the job calls for. We dont recycle any of it either, its dumpster trash. I am not stealing from the government, you need to settle down there hoss. This is why I feel comfortable posting about it on a public forum.
And no I cant afford parts, $80 for a new hose and drier IS too much for me. I dont make **** doing what I do. So excuse me if your making bank over there on your high horse. An effective "rig" and a solution to replacing desiccant IS effective for me. I am not going to triple my $40 project cost when my "rig" gets the job done well.
The key to knowing if you are stealing is not to justify it with a couple of hundred words, but rather to secure written permission from your CO. If it is not in writing, then you don't have permission, you have an accomplice. The military/military contractor still owns that 'trash'. No organization condones the behavior you are describing. That is why you don't get to decide what you can take and what you cannot take. By definition, those materials do not belong to you.
Your position seem to be that if the thievery is petty enough then it doesn't matter? It is ironic that you think another of your money $80 is too much for you to pay, yet you feel comfortable bridging the gap by taking someone else's property.
Did you also dig those 10 hydraulic hose clamps out of the trash? You are going downhill on a slippery slope, Slick.
And the name is not hoss.
Good luck on your repair. I hope your life works out as well.
08-16-07, 11:46 AM
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Ugh, it seems that it must be impossible to argue with you sir. You must have a ***** as large as your ego and vast almighty knowledge. I bow to you oh trash policy king for I apologize and kiss your feet in hopes that you do not sacrifice me and throw me to the hot furnace in your Texan town of 2,500 from which my trash would have gone, all the way from Florida. Flaming me with these words on this internet forum drop me to my knees, begging the bald eagle and uncle sam for forgiveness for your flaming nothing to the burning coals of the trash furnace.
Please oh please I will return my trash to the rest of the trash and never adopt trash from a family of trash again in my life. Because of course trash is a family and trash sticks together, that is why I should join my family and drop myself into that dumpster with the trash where you can drop your almighty elitist ***** on top of the dumpster and leave me there to rot. Please give me pity enough to write my name, Ryan Snider- on my dumpster grave.
The clamps were actually from an auto parts store, where I oh so cleverly conned the cashier into trading my currency for them. And the names not Slick.
Please oh please I will return my trash to the rest of the trash and never adopt trash from a family of trash again in my life. Because of course trash is a family and trash sticks together, that is why I should join my family and drop myself into that dumpster with the trash where you can drop your almighty elitist ***** on top of the dumpster and leave me there to rot. Please give me pity enough to write my name, Ryan Snider- on my dumpster grave.
The clamps were actually from an auto parts store, where I oh so cleverly conned the cashier into trading my currency for them. And the names not Slick.
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