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Old 02-02-04, 05:57 PM
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i found the leak is coming from the P/D. from where it's at, i would have to remove the extension manifold. & i know it is not easy thing to do. there is a shop about 22 miles away from my house that specializes in RX7. but i would be taking a big chance taking it over there. what are my chances of having to replace it than seeing if it is something else. i can see the fuel coming out when the car is on. ive seen pictures of cars that suffer the same ordeal & trust me i don't want to be one of them...
yesterday i spent all day stripping the interior out & shampooing the seats, & the carpets. by the way the seats are in close to perfect condition (just dirty as hell).
it took me nearly 3hrs. just on the seats, wanted gotten them really clean. no tears or faded. oh! it's a 1988 RX7 GXL. my wife brought it for me on our wedding anniversery. paid $2500.00 came w/17" JD rims only 2 months old. the radio is missing due to theft, destoyed the a/c radio console. that sucks!!! but anyway i need to get that P/D resolve. i'm not driving it yet because i have company truck.
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Do not touch it I am totally serious... DONT!!! If you have 20 bux and a credit card you can order a banjo bolt which is a band aid fix.. Some people use it instead of a PD your choice. But just dont drive on that pd b/c when it drips on the exhaust manifold kiss your *** good bye.
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Re: pulsation damper

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i found the leak is coming from the P/D. from where it's at, i would have to remove the extension manifold. & i know it is not easy thing to do.
Dude, any one with limited car knowledge can remove the UIM on the FC! Then its just a matter of replacing the PD with either a banjo bolt or another PD. Why pay someone else to do it?
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When removing the UIM to change the PD, do you need any new gaskets?
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Its recommended that you replace the intake gaskets, and the injector grommets/O-Rings,,
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And also, any ill effects from the banjo bolt usage? Any reason this is not a permanent fix?
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Well, there are 2 schools of thought. Personally, I am going to continue using a PD. Some might not. Do a search, there are lots of arguments concerning this.
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I was hoping for a summary.

Guess what I really wanna know is...
If I don't use a PD, will my car catch on fire?
Will it run normally?
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Summary:

PD helps absorb pressure fluctuations due to the opening and closing of the injectors. I think it also takes some of the fluctuation out from the fuel pump too. Some think that the variations are small enough not to worry about.
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Thanks J-Rat.
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FAQ/pd.html

At the bottom is a link to a PD thread here...




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Yea banjo cannot absorb the fuel vibrations in turn it can crack the fuel lines ..... Supposdly
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Originally posted by Gibenstein
Yea banjo cannot absorb the fuel vibrations in turn it can crack the fuel lines ..... Supposdly
Uh, ok...


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Ted, do you verify that "supposedly"? I mean, has it ever cracked anyone's fuel lines?
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I could have sworn I read something about the fuel lines cracking since the lines would receive more pressure. But it has never actually happened from what I have read. and if I am wrong I am sorry I am just trying to help...
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Originally posted by Icemark
You want to avoid the Banjo bolt band aid, as it will affect fuel delivery and fuel line life.

A PD is found on almost very fuel injected car for the last 20 years... if they could build cars without them they would.

A Pulsation damper is critical to the proper function of any EFI setup. Rapid cycling of the fuel injectors and fuel system components in a running engine combine with the non-compressibility of the fuel; and create high frequency pressure waves in the rail. These pressure waves can cause substantial variation in the fuel delivered by the injectors; causing numerous running problems that are difficult to trace, in addition to increasing stress on the fuel pressure regulator.
A good arguement on why you should replace with another PD and only use banjo for temp fix https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...bolt+fuel+line

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Originally posted by truespin88
Ted, do you verify that "supposedly"? I mean, has it ever cracked anyone's fuel lines?
Um, did I say "supposedly"?
I've never heard of fuel lines cracking.
We've run them on several FC's, and none of them have any fuel problems.

The stock FC runs at least 2 - 3 feet of rubber hose, and that will easily absorb any pulsations from the fuel injectors.


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Like I said .... Just trying to help I dunno I just read about it.. And btw are you hawaiian ted ? I have lots of family in honolulu cause I used to live there until I moved to this desert land for my step dad ><.
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Yes, born and raised in Honolulu.
After a torrid tour of the west coast, I'm back to settling in here again.



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Last week I went with my friend mike to buy a 10 AE in VA. It was completely gone due to a PD fire. They wanted 4k for it... we walked. But, yah the pictures you see are nothing compared to actually seeing the damage infront of you. I say run lines straight to the rails, or swap the GMC PD in place of the mazda one. I know you need adapters for it, but I know a few people that swear by it. But as said before, don't drive with it leaking.
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The 10th AE I bought had a PD fire. It was put out pretty fast but the engine bay looks like crap now. I'll get pics soon. Going to rebuild it though.
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