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Old 07-14-07, 09:02 AM
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Paint problems! I have a foggy finish...

Well, my car is now painted, but the guy that painted it made a mistake I think...

The finish of the paint is, at some places, kind of foggy. You, know, its not completly mirror like, its just like if there was a little mist in the finish.

Anybody knows why that happenned? I just wanna know if the guy is telling me the truth or if he bought cheap *** paint.

Also, if I wax the car, will the fog go away?
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It's possible that the paint simply isn't smooth enough. In that case, paying a shop to buff it should make things better. A wax designed to hide small scratches, swirl marks, etc. would also probably work. But if the paint is cloudy inside, not just rough at the surface, then that's a problem with the paint. Perhaps too much moisture in it, I dunno.

For wax I got Zaino and I love it (www.zainostore.com). It protects well and lasts a long time, too. I got Z-5 and that completely hid the myriad of swirl marks on my 20 year old paint. I also got the shinier Z-2 to go on top of the Z-5 because I wanted 2 bottles anyway. I used Z-2 only on a friend's BMW and it still had swirl marks.
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Could be dry, as stated, you can tell if it is or not by feeling the surface. If its rough (or roughER then the shiney areas) then he just didn't spray enough on/doesn't know how to spray.

If the actual material is smooth but foggy it could be a number of problems. Too much hardener will cause clouding, too much material (despite what people think about "my car has 10 coats of clear" applying too much can cause problems), spraying in a non-controlled envrioment such as a barn or garage with very high humidity can cause clouding and chalking...this is even more of a problem when cheaper material is used...or incorrect fluid tip sizes in the gun can cause the material to dye-back and appear cloudy.

If the paint is simply applied dry, wet sanding then buffing *can* bring it up....however....if the material is so dry that you end up sanding through before you achieve an even finish - you'll need to re-spray.

Short answer - in either case...simply waxing will do absolutely nothing. You'll either be faced with wetsanding and buffing/polishing followed by waxing, or re-spraying.
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Originally Posted by classicauto
If the actual material is smooth but foggy it could be a number of problems...
Classic, That's the problme exactly...Finish is really smooth...but its still cloudy.

Would a compound fix the problem? Or a massive wax and buffing?

EDIT: Dude you're a bodyshop owner!
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Hate to **** on your weekend but a waxing won't help it if the material is cloudy....

I would *try* a wet sand on the areas that are clouded and hit them with the buffer just to see what you get. Can't hurt at this point, but waxing will be just make it more difficult to clean when you go to re-spray it.........................

Because if the buffing doesn't do it - you'll have to shoot it again....

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Re-sand and re-paint?...or just re-paint?
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Man... that sucks then. Isn't this the shop's responsibility to fix? Or no?
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You should go back to the shop and see if they will fix it. About a month after my car got painted the paint started to show sratches under the paint from sanding on the hood and the paint was peeling very slightly on the bumper. So they fixed it and resprayed it for free.



The shop should have a warranty and hopefully they will honor it. Check with them first before messing with the paint.
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Originally Posted by F.C.3S
Re-sand and re-paint?...or just re-paint?
You can't repaint without resanding. The new paint needs tooth to adhere to so if you just spray again you'll see the paint start to flake off after it dries.
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