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Old 12-09-06, 12:59 PM
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O2 sensor wire

hey im going to install an RB header
and i couldnt get the heatshield off so i got pissed off and cut the O2 sensor wire to get it off.
so i was wondering if you could splice the O2 sensor wire back together,
and what kind of wire do i need to buy to use if i wanted to extend the wire?
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Use the same gauge wire or larger. Be sure to solder the connections and cover them with heat shrink tubing.

BTW try taking a break next time you get frustrated. You are gonna cause yourself a lot more trouble when you start hacking and tearing at your 7. Remember these are15 to 20 year old cars, enough **** is gonna break anyway just by touching it. No need to cause more damage.

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if your installing RB headers , does it matter if u get OEM or Universal o2 sensor, you dont need to use the stock connector right because its going to be too short and ure gonna have to cut it anyways.
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Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7
if your installing RB headers , does it matter if u get OEM or Universal o2 sensor, you dont need to use the stock connector right because its going to be too short and ure gonna have to cut it anyways.
Universal is fine.

If possible, use shielded wire for your extension, but that stuff is tricky to splice if you don't know how.
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universal oxygen sensors are bad, they are not set for the CORRECT spec readings for our vehicles, use a direct fit then cut the wire and make it longer if need be..

dont use BOSCH use Denso or NTK

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^^ dont use bosch , denso or NTK what should we use , stock? lot of ppl using universals, i dont hear bout side effects.

EDIT, how would u even notice any side effects. If we have to change em most likely were getting bad MPG anyway, so if we get incorrect signals and retain the same rotary MPG then its a crafty bung plug for the headers lol

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OEM is good so is Denso...

in my experiencs bosh oxygen sensors burn out prematurly in turbo applications. thus why I wont use bosh in ANY application..

some people run no oxygen sensor just plug it up.. with the amount of mpg our cars get why not!
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i got a NA lol. I got the universal.

Does anyone have the specs for Universal vs Stock, so we can see if theres a real Difference!
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here is the specs... the universal oxygen sensor for our car will suposidly work on hundreds of other cars, where the stock on will only work on our application!

I sell these items DAILY I have meetings with the bosch rep I have gone over this with them before
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btw here is a small list..

bosch oem will fit mazda, and ford (with mazda engines)

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NOW that is comming DIRECTLY from one of my suppliers who have crossed the BOSCH universal part number into the system and say it will "fit/work" in any of those applications...


now here is the EXACT list of what the ORIGINAL bosch exact fit sensor will fit

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MERCURY CAPRI XR2



see a difference? UNIVERSAL oxygen sensors hell universal anything will universaly fit anything it does NOT mean it is EXACT or PROPER for the aplication..

ONLY buy direct fit and then cut the wire from there.

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^^ haha, okay. So can anyone with BOSCH uni please comment about what you have noticed with ure cars?
But still what is the the difference in voltage/resistance signal being sent to teh CPU. Is there a diff way that the OEM vs UNI takes care of this signal.,

Are they built differently to read diff levels of the signal being sent to the CPU

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probably not because it may be miniscule on the difference and most is going to be ACTUAL computer read differences..

for instance a direct fit/oe oxy may read 1:1 air to fuel where a uni may read 1.8:1 air to fuel.

not only that but if u took both oxys and attached them to a wideband u will get a different reading. I have tested this before of course in configuration with other devices...

again it may not be a huge difference but there will be suttle differences which will make it APPEAR to be running just fine when actually u may be lean or richer then need be
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<~~ordered DENSO one OEM fit . Bastard lol double the cost lol

Thanks
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Originally Posted by SpooledupRacing
probably not because it may be miniscule on the difference and most is going to be ACTUAL computer read differences..

for instance a direct fit/oe oxy may read 1:1 air to fuel where a uni may read 1.8:1 air to fuel.

not only that but if u took both oxys and attached them to a wideband u will get a different reading. I have tested this before of course in configuration with other devices...

again it may not be a huge difference but there will be suttle differences which will make it APPEAR to be running just fine when actually u may be lean or richer then need be
My FJO dual channel wideband shows no difference at cruise using a new bosch universal or a new oem narrowband. Hovers right around 14.7:1 with both.

Bosch universal works fine.

Yet another case where real world knowledge makes a difference. Don't post bullshit answers about what might happen.
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Originally Posted by scathcart
My FJO dual channel wideband shows no difference at cruise using a new bosch universal or a new oem narrowband. Hovers right around 14.7:1 with both.

Bosch universal works fine.

Yet another case where real world knowledge makes a difference. Don't post bullshit answers about what might happen.

Nice, thanks for the update.

So why the big fuss with OEM, i guess OEM is just the connector to the car and they charge u a few bucks extra for their hard work.
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Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7
Nice, thanks for the update.

So why the big fuss with OEM, i guess OEM is just the connector to the car and they charge u a few bucks extra for their hard work.
Exactly.
Why does OEM charge $20 for an FD exhaust stud? Its a couple ounces of iron, easily replicated by cutting the head off a bolt, and costs a fraction of the cost.
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at cruise nothing will be precise it is when u are pulling where u see the real difference I have trid testing both with a wideband and I got different readings on a piston engine. never tired on a rotary
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