View Poll Results: Is the non-turbo FC a real sports car?
Yes, the non-turbo FC is a sports car.
542
81.87%
It's just sporty....not a real sports car.
79
11.93%
It's a wannabe sports car.
22
3.32%
They actually make NON-turbos??
19
2.87%
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Non-turbo FC. Sports car or wannabe?
Hmm, lets see
I have the brakes of a turbo, springs, shock, etc... I have less weight and more reliability. I guess I can't complain.
I'm going to take up my N/A another level or so. Going big street port, e-fan,e-water pump. Pully, Haltech, 4.3 or higher gears, true dual exhaust, carbon fiber driveshaft, light wheels, coilovers, weight reduction (about 2200 lbs). Lexan windows. No power steering, no ac, no stereo, etc... blah blah blah.
When I'm done, I don't care if people consider it a "sports car" car or not. It should hold its own. Want to find out?
Besides I've got the sportiest RX-7 you could get in the 86 model year. Almost like a turbo with out the turbo.
I'm going to take up my N/A another level or so. Going big street port, e-fan,e-water pump. Pully, Haltech, 4.3 or higher gears, true dual exhaust, carbon fiber driveshaft, light wheels, coilovers, weight reduction (about 2200 lbs). Lexan windows. No power steering, no ac, no stereo, etc... blah blah blah.
When I'm done, I don't care if people consider it a "sports car" car or not. It should hold its own. Want to find out?
Besides I've got the sportiest RX-7 you could get in the 86 model year. Almost like a turbo with out the turbo.
I Raise Chickens
Joined: Jul 2001
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From: Half Moon Bay, CA
Originally posted by RarestRX
Yo,
[Rodney Dangerfield Voice]:
We don't get no respect!!
Yep, my NA FC brothers, we're the red headed stepchilds of the RX-7 community. We weren't the first RX-7's, and we weren't the last. We're the middle child, sometimes forgotten. We don't have the old school charm of the SA/FB, or the sexy curves of the FD. Our own turbo bretheren look down on us. Well, I got one thing to say to all the naysayers: BITE ME!
NA FC's are the shiznat. I love my GTUs, and wouldn't trade it for any other RX-7. Look how many FC's are still around, TONS. Gee, why is that? Well, how about bulletproof reliability. 200K before a rebuild? No problem.
The handling, the brakes, and yes, the acceleration. Don't forget my 'Vert brothers, sexy droptops for fun in the sun. The racing history: IMSA GTU Domination in the 80's, 24 Hours of Daytona's GTU Class won TWELVE YEARS in a ROW by NA RX-7's.
Not sports cars? Hmm, two doors, two seats, 50/50 weight distribution, big brakes, rear drive, yep, those FC's sure are great commuter cars. Hello! If they ain't sportscars, what are they? SUV's?!
So brothers, don't despair, just rail those corners, hit those apexes, and throw those flames. /We/ know the joy of 8000+ rpms in a rotary, and FORGET what anyone says.
KS
1989 GTUs "F*ck 'em!"
Yo,
[Rodney Dangerfield Voice]:
We don't get no respect!!
Yep, my NA FC brothers, we're the red headed stepchilds of the RX-7 community. We weren't the first RX-7's, and we weren't the last. We're the middle child, sometimes forgotten. We don't have the old school charm of the SA/FB, or the sexy curves of the FD. Our own turbo bretheren look down on us. Well, I got one thing to say to all the naysayers: BITE ME!
NA FC's are the shiznat. I love my GTUs, and wouldn't trade it for any other RX-7. Look how many FC's are still around, TONS. Gee, why is that? Well, how about bulletproof reliability. 200K before a rebuild? No problem.
The handling, the brakes, and yes, the acceleration. Don't forget my 'Vert brothers, sexy droptops for fun in the sun. The racing history: IMSA GTU Domination in the 80's, 24 Hours of Daytona's GTU Class won TWELVE YEARS in a ROW by NA RX-7's.
Not sports cars? Hmm, two doors, two seats, 50/50 weight distribution, big brakes, rear drive, yep, those FC's sure are great commuter cars. Hello! If they ain't sportscars, what are they? SUV's?!
So brothers, don't despair, just rail those corners, hit those apexes, and throw those flames. /We/ know the joy of 8000+ rpms in a rotary, and FORGET what anyone says.
KS
1989 GTUs "F*ck 'em!"
Damn you guys, see what you did? Got my boy Kevin all riled up!
Three spinning triangles
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Been all around this world and still call Texas home (Ft Worth)
Originally posted by Agent_D
damn i wish i had my black FC still, i ran a 14.4 in that car, i would take on modded T2's with that N/A's, to me, are the best 
i mean yea i like turbos and all, but i love the thrill of telling some v8 rustang guy that he just got beat by 1.3litres of n/a power its your choice though, all RX-7's are sports cars
damn i wish i had my black FC still, i ran a 14.4 in that car, i would take on modded T2's with that
N/A's, to me, are the best i mean yea i like turbos and all, but i love the thrill of telling some v8 rustang guy that he just got beat by 1.3litres of n/a power its your choice though, all RX-7's are sports cars
Oh yea I tipped the scales at 2234lbs that day too.
Last edited by PaulC; Dec 10, 2001 at 06:31 PM.
that car, its wrecked 
, had a stripped interior, removed a/c, p/s, bacv, re routed the coolant line from the water pump straight to the rear of the engine, modded TB, a custom made intake with a Fram cone filter , GSL-SE 680cc secondary injectors, upgraded fuel pump, pace setter header hooked up to a 2.5" single sided exhaust with NO mufflers, 205/50/15" tires, NGK 9's, and i tipped the scales at 2250lbs it had a sport suspension setup on it but i didnt do that the owner before me did. i didnt strip the interior either i ran a 6 sec flat 0-60 in that car, i shifted at the rev limiter @ 7600rpm.my current car
86 base model i assume, since its 4 lug and sport models had 5 lug and i right??
well it has the stock exhaust but the weld i had done to it melted the other day so its coming straight off the exhaust manifold
i just made a cold air box yesterday, intake, modded TB, re routed coolant lines, removed a/c, p/s, air pump, NGK 9's with the crush washers cut off, 5.12 gears, and soon ill be gettin my 89-91 ported intake manifold and when i get my income tax refund im buying a street ported engine and saving up for the mazdatrix true dual exhaust, gettin an e-fan, fire control ignition box, 550 secondaries, walbro pump, and 225/50/15" tires with 15x7.5" rimsthe title of this car says 2200lbs but i havent had it weighed yet
its pretty quick to say the least with the 5.12 gears
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
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From: Stinson Beach, Ca
I got a few questions about the 5.12's.
-Whered ya get em from, ive seen em from mazdatrix?
-About how Much to do it all?
-Did you notice any effect in top end?
-How hard was it to install?
-Did the rear tend to slip out in lower gears more or less?
-How big a diff did it make on your acceleration (0-60, 60sec, 1/8, 1/4)
-Whered ya get em from, ive seen em from mazdatrix?
-About how Much to do it all?
-Did you notice any effect in top end?
-How hard was it to install?
-Did the rear tend to slip out in lower gears more or less?
-How big a diff did it make on your acceleration (0-60, 60sec, 1/8, 1/4)
NA Powah, Every Hour!
Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Sacramento, CA, U S of A
Yo,
C'mon Seth, like it's hard to get my *** riled? I'm the friggin' NA pitbull, always chomping on folks who diss the NA. *grin* Since I've got the baddest NA from the factory, I gotta be the tip of the sword.
So when am I gonna get a ride in the Yellow Menance? Is it broken...in yet? *duck*
KS
1989 GTUs "All the good, none of the bad."
C'mon Seth, like it's hard to get my *** riled? I'm the friggin' NA pitbull, always chomping on folks who diss the NA. *grin* Since I've got the baddest NA from the factory, I gotta be the tip of the sword.
So when am I gonna get a ride in the Yellow Menance? Is it broken...in yet? *duck*
KS
1989 GTUs "All the good, none of the bad."
oh yea i forgot, i remember the RX-7 Therapy thread you wrote shortly following the sep 11th thing, i just read it again today, man you gotta post that again to give everyone the feeling of it that was an awesome write up
that was an awesome write up
NA Powah, Every Hour!
Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Sacramento, CA, U S of A
Yo,
Here it is:
https://www.rx7club.com/vforums/show...threadid=20346
Enjoy!
KS
1989 GTUs "No turbo? No problem!"
Here it is:
https://www.rx7club.com/vforums/show...threadid=20346
Enjoy!
KS
1989 GTUs "No turbo? No problem!"
I wish I was driving!
Joined: Dec 2001
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From: BC, Canada
Here's my favourite: check out http://www.supercars.net/index-present.html
supercars.net lists the '89 GTUs as a supercar! You'll note that there is no TII listed there. You'll also not find an NA Supra, or one riced up civic (does the 2002 type R civic count?)
Not saying we NA cars deserve to be classifed as a supercar; we don't compare at all with some of those things, and then again there are some pretty gross cars on there, but a decent site none the less.
Forget a ferrari... you want a real supercar? NA RX7 all the way!
Sean Cathcart
1990 TII
supercars.net lists the '89 GTUs as a supercar! You'll note that there is no TII listed there. You'll also not find an NA Supra, or one riced up civic (does the 2002 type R civic count?)
Not saying we NA cars deserve to be classifed as a supercar; we don't compare at all with some of those things, and then again there are some pretty gross cars on there, but a decent site none the less.
Forget a ferrari... you want a real supercar? NA RX7 all the way!
Sean Cathcart
1990 TII
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From: Florida, P.R., U.S.A.
Here's my favourite: check out http://www.supercars.net/index-present.html
supercars.net lists the '89 GTUs as a supercar! You'll note that there is no TII listed there. You'll also not find an NA Supra, or one riced up civic
supercars.net lists the '89 GTUs as a supercar! You'll note that there is no TII listed there. You'll also not find an NA Supra, or one riced up civic
The racing history: IMSA GTU Domination in the 80's, 24 Hours of Daytona's GTU Class won TWELVE YEARS in a ROW by NA RX-7's.
Freedoms worth a buck o'5
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From: Calgary Alberta Canada
This is a tough one...for me anyway, before owning a tII, i would have voted that its a real sportscar, no problem, I have a modded n/a and a modded TII, but they are night and day, the N/a handles pretty good, but when it calls for ballsout power and driving, the TII makes the n/a seem like a sporty 'grocery getter'.. I love my n/a but when I feel the need and greed for power, I drive my TII, or sad to say, my 4x4, which is tons quicker than an n/a fc, but I have gone back to the drawing board in an attempt to make my n/a my second fastest vehicle, if i truly beleived it was a lost cause, I wouldn't be trying all the stuff that I am with it, so I will deem it a sportscar...Max
mad scientist
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From: Savannah, GA
Originally posted by Maxthe7man
This is a tough one...for me anyway, before owning a tII, i would have voted that its a real sportscar, no problem, I have a modded n/a and a modded TII, but they are night and day, the N/a handles pretty good, but when it calls for ballsout power and driving, the TII makes the n/a seem like a sporty 'grocery getter'.. I love my n/a but when I feel the need and greed for power, I drive my TII, or sad to say, my 4x4, which is tons quicker than an n/a fc, but I have gone back to the drawing board in an attempt to make my n/a my second fastest vehicle, if i truly beleived it was a lost cause, I wouldn't be trying all the stuff that I am with it, so I will deem it a sportscar...Max
This is a tough one...for me anyway, before owning a tII, i would have voted that its a real sportscar, no problem, I have a modded n/a and a modded TII, but they are night and day, the N/a handles pretty good, but when it calls for ballsout power and driving, the TII makes the n/a seem like a sporty 'grocery getter'.. I love my n/a but when I feel the need and greed for power, I drive my TII, or sad to say, my 4x4, which is tons quicker than an n/a fc, but I have gone back to the drawing board in an attempt to make my n/a my second fastest vehicle, if i truly beleived it was a lost cause, I wouldn't be trying all the stuff that I am with it, so I will deem it a sportscar...Max
I think one ride in my car would change the way you look at n/a FC's. Every ridden in a low 14 sec n/a?
i agree with mazdaspeed7, ever been in a low-mid 14 sec n/a its rather exhilerating experience, you should try it some time. and you can race me when i got my car done ~270hp street port with my 5.12 gears, i think i can run a high 12, that should be interesting
its rather exhilerating experience, you should try it some time. and you can race me when i got my car done ~270hp street port with my 5.12 gears, i think i can run a high 12, that should be interesting
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From: lemoore california
DAMN RIGHT!!!!! i got a GTU that'll kick the crap out of any rustang, prelude and camaro and on a lesser scale ANY civic. especially on the highway. it may have an automatic tranny(manual is on the way) but its still fast as hell, has razor sharp handling and revs high. and yes its a N/A with only a Borla catback and Flowmaster cone filter. anyone who says that N/As and RX7s in general are not sports cars has either never raced one or has had thier *** beat badly enough for them to say that.
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From: Marietta, GA
Originally posted by viper7
DAMN RIGHT!!!!! i got a GTU that'll kick the crap out of any rustang, prelude and camaro and on a lesser scale ANY civic. especially on the highway. it may have an automatic tranny(manual is on the way) but its still fast as hell, has razor sharp handling and revs high. and yes its a N/A with only a Borla catback and Flowmaster cone filter. anyone who says that N/As and RX7s in general are not sports cars has either never raced one or has had thier *** beat badly enough for them to say that.
DAMN RIGHT!!!!! i got a GTU that'll kick the crap out of any rustang, prelude and camaro and on a lesser scale ANY civic. especially on the highway. it may have an automatic tranny(manual is on the way) but its still fast as hell, has razor sharp handling and revs high. and yes its a N/A with only a Borla catback and Flowmaster cone filter. anyone who says that N/As and RX7s in general are not sports cars has either never raced one or has had thier *** beat badly enough for them to say that.
You can beat Mustangs, Preludes, Camaros, and ALL Civics? Hmm... I would reconsider that statement. Espeically since I've seen Civics that would kill my car... and I'm about 100hp up on you and I've got a 5spd.
Not a flame, just a reality check....
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From: Marietta, GA
Originally posted by Node
Not exactly but we have same displacement, not quite as different as a V6 vs a V8
but anyways, 193/260 for them (i thought GTs had near 280) and 160/200, closer, but im gonna stop talking now
Not exactly but we have same displacement, not quite as different as a V6 vs a V8
but anyways, 193/260 for them (i thought GTs had near 280) and 160/200, closer, but im gonna stop talking now