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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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$900 wher?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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$900 wher?
www.osakajdmmotors.com
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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rebuilding it will cost big bucks, the housings and such i guarentee are not reuseable, its got 150k on the clock and the previous owner beat the **** out of it. i talked prices at a local shop and it would be cheaper to do a reman, but since i make 8 bucks an hour, ill take the S5 JDM one. and i know its a bitch and a half to wire, but i know my limitations, ill get help with that.

edit: plus ill be getting 17+ horsepower
That 17+ HP isn't anywhere NEAR the worth of trying to find a running J-spec.

Half of the J-specs dont run, so you'll be re-fucked again. Don't you understand?

I say: Rebuild the old one, buy good used housings. That isn't hard. **** you can peice together some small blocks cheaper then a J-spec with quality used parts.

I think that shop is trying to **** you.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Wow...not even a reputable place.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
That 17+ HP isn't anywhere NEAR the worth of trying to find a running J-spec.

Half of the J-specs dont run, so you'll be re-fucked again. Don't you understand?

I say: Rebuild the old one, buy good used housings. That isn't hard. **** you can peice together some small blocks cheaper then a J-spec with quality used parts.

I think that shop is trying to **** you.
im doin a basic rebuild on the jspec, so hopefully anything thats wrong with it will be fixed there. and i dont think so.. AIM tuning is good people. i have plenty of references. if they were trying to **** me they would be talking me into buying a reman off of them. i mean its possible, just not likely
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
Wow...not even a reputable place.
yeah ive heard a buncha **** about osaka, im not saying that its reputable but that guy asked where he could get a jdm motor for 900 bucks. oh but if you wanna SR20DET then osaka is the place. My old boss mark at modern speed labs ordered from them all day long. quality **** all the time
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by InMyWhiteTII
yeah ive heard a buncha **** about osaka, im not saying that its reputable but that guy asked where he could get a jdm motor for 900 bucks. oh but if you wanna SR20DET then osaka is the place. My old boss mark at modern speed labs ordered from them all day long. quality **** all the time
Bad **** because they just go to junkyards and sell "running" motors.

I have my own places for SR20's and such.

And quality **** in whose eyes? I've been around alot of people that claims their quality **** was actually in fact ****.

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But I do agree with rebuilding the J-spec. I'de just replace parts on the old engine and get by cheaper .
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by InMyWhiteTII
im doin a basic rebuild on the jspec, so hopefully anything thats wrong with it will be fixed there. and i dont think so.. AIM tuning is good people. i have plenty of references. if they were trying to **** me they would be talking me into buying a reman off of them. i mean its possible, just not likely
I work as a technition. We want you guys to pay more, its apart of our job and its how we make money.

Peicing together one is still cheaper IMHO.

I'm done here, good luck with whatever you do.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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What year was the Taurus? The newer ones have some pretty decent power and could take an older stock TII.
Edit: its not an SHO, either. Those were either straight-6 or V-8.

No staright six.

No points for you.

SHO's either had:
-Yamaha built V6 (first and second generations)-only available in a 5 spd I might add.
-VERY small block DOHC V8 (third generation)-known to be ****.

Ford's last straight six was in the F-150 trucks and was a massive 4.9L L6. Good luck fitting that big bastard under the hood of a FWD Taurus.

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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Osaka has good quality motors, they are just morons... Sending the wrong series... Just have your Stock T2 motor rebuilt, if all you need is the core then you already have it..
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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so are the motors from places like Osaka usually ****? or do they just not deliver? Has anyone had sucess running a JDM engine?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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i would say keep ur S4 engine n rebuild it! cuz of stronger internals and heavier can handle higher boosting!
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by philiptompkins
so are the motors from places like Osaka usually ****? or do they just not deliver? Has anyone had sucess running a JDM engine?
plenty of people have, but then plenty of people havent. its a gamble. if you get one, you'd better plan on rebuilding it before installation. in my case, im ordering it, tearing it down, and rebuildign it with a streetport.


BTW: is it wise to streetport on your rebuild or should you do it later?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody8877
i would say keep ur S4 engine n rebuild it! cuz of stronger internals and heavier can handle higher boosting!
S4's have stronger internals than S5's? hrm, i havent heard of this. if that be teh case, then a rebuild may be in order. or piecing together the shortblock
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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S5's have stronger internals, not S4's...
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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thats what i thought
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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o0o opps my bad i got it the other way around. i swear S4 had stronger internal
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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is that why s5's have more horse power than the s4? i alwase thought it was becuase of the ecu and the turbo?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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the S5 supposely hav lighter internal n higher compression on the engine also i think the S5 turbo have a higher boost than the S4 Turbo

Engine compression ratio
S4: 8.5:1
S5: 9:1

Turbo boost
S4: 6-6.5psi roughly
S5: 7psi i think not sure.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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The S4's have a lower compression ratio, therefore are able to take more boost safely without the fear of detonation.

Listen to Jager, InMyWhiteTII. The best idea would be to find two good (used) housings and use everything else from your existing motor. While it's all apart, clean everything really nice, make sure everything's still in-spec, street-port everything, replace all the seals etc. and then put it back together. If you want the benefit of an s5, buy an s5 turbo for $200 since your 150k mile one is nearing the end of it's life.

BTW, my old white '88 Turbo II was also VERY slow. It had 140k on it when I bought it and it was bone-stock except a K&N drop-in filter. I got smoked by almost everything. I raced a GSR Integra from 0-110 and I didn't pass him until the middle of 4th gear (around 100mph). Even embarassing kills like Lincoln Navigators and crap. I would bet that your compression is below 90psi all around. Not to mention your 150k mile cat probably flows about nothing.

I would suggest saving up $1500 for a full rebuild kit, tune-up parts, tools and (good) used housings. All the while, leave your TII stock and just be careful with it until you've got the money for the rebuild project. Don't waste your time on a J-spec s5 motor.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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well another aspect is that i wont have to rush with the JDM motor. with this ill have the motor out for a while, and this is my daily driver. i plan on borrowing someones car, and i dont wanna have it for that long. but then again i might be getting an 87 base model soon so we'll see how that goes. plus my dad gets pissed when i take up the garage. with my AE86 swap it was only like a week and he was really mad because he couldnt park his precious audi in the garage /sigh.
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