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Old 01-14-03, 11:52 PM
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My Setup too Weak for Bridge?

i'm going for 350hp, hybrid turbo hopfully from BNRsupercars, 720cc secondaries, SX fuel regulator, walbro fuel pump, A'Pexi Super AFC...

and i'm going to bridge it, hopfully more 350HP, but 350hp is good enough.


the reason for 720 is because the rx7.com the calculator says thats good, and plus i want drop in setup no new rails

as u can see im a cheapo
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You dont even need to bridgeport it to get 350hp.
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but brigde is soo cool....


babrbar bparpbpar bpararbarb bpabrb par barb aarpp!!!!!!


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the reason i'm going brigde is because when i open the engine up, i can do whatever i want to it, and it cost like 300$ for gasket kit and i don't want to do it again, do now or never do it!

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To tell you the truth I would do a peripheral port.
Stock/street ports

Bridges


Auxport:

Stock left, peripheral port right
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peripheral port is for me and my friends 12A project. Bridge is for the fun of it.

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peripheral port is damn extreme, if you didn't know. It'll idle like the 787b. But it'll probably redline over 10k, if the engine can take it that is. Also, it'll never pass emissions.
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u must be very new, the 12A peripheral port is for the race car me and my buddies are building, the bridge port motor is for my street car and i have a spare engine, totally stock, emmissions in-tact..

NOTHING YOU GUYS CAN SAY WOULD CHANGE MY 12A PERIPHERAL PORT, because it's a race car, i wouldn't care about emmsions, loudness [best part ], fuel economy, etc..

bridge port street car? that's a super ....

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o yeah power isn't up to 10k, if built right it max out at 92oo-95oo. Doesn't kick until 4-5k, don't believe everything you read, wait until i finish everything, and i'll video tape it, sound wav it, and every media you can think of. And you'll really see, how a real peripheral port works.
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350 rwhp goal with a bridgeport? Simple!!!
Geeze that's like saying you want to swap in a stock Viper engine and "hope" to get 400 rwhp. (stock is 388).

If 350 rwhp is your goal... then you should not be looking at a bridgeport at all. Only consider a bridgeport if you goal is OVER 500rwhp!

Also, you are going to need a hell of a lot more fuel than just upgrading your secondaires to 720cc.
Do some searches on the forum, or just read every post in the past few months of the Rotary Performance and Single Turbo forums -- that's where the real knowledge is on this forum.
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^agreed^


maby you should look at a monster street port from fc3s.org, from what iv seen and read the bridge is totaly not emitions passable...
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building everything myself, no fc3s.org rebuild for me. Where can I get some HUGE street port templates? i only can find mazdatrix and racingbeat, and i was going for racing because it's cheaper but unless find some humugo street port i'll get that, let me know if anyone knows.

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matching a bridge with a stock turbo exhuast housing is wasting your time...
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what size injectors should i use? is it drop in replacment?? i don't want to get a new fuel rail..

im cheap..

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the stock turbo is too smal for stock ports, you need a bigger turbo

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What's the Difference?
Regulator or FMU, I'm thinking i need a fuel pressure RISER right? or do i need both? still don't know what to do with fuel.

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Get an EMS! You don't need an FMU, just get a fuel pressure regulator (with a fuel pressure gauge too).

For a fuel system that will depend on what setup you choose. I take it you have decided on the large streetport (more commanly called an extended port) and a larger single turbo.
First you must decide what turbo you will be using (or give a good idea for size) and how much boost you will be running before I can recommend what to upgrade your fuel system to.

For pumps, a Walbro 255 lph pump is probably be the way to go. You can install in a second TII fuel pump to create a total of 320 lph flow, but this requires a bit of custom modifications.

For injectors, you will need larger ones!!
Really though, depends on your turbo and boost.
If you are shooting for 350-400 rwhp, then you will probably want to have 720cc primaries and 1200cc secondaries. That's a REALLY rough estimate since I don't know anything about your planned set up AT ALL.
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i guess, i don't know i'm not too sure about everything NOW, DAMN YOU FOR HELPING ME!

i added everything up and equal up to $1800, 900 for hybrid turbo and 900 for complete fuel system, guess it's back to the boards for me, i was planning on microtech and i guess that's my plan for now, i'm not really aimming for 400 maybe 320hp or 380hp. something for the 12s/11s time slips.
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If you are aiming for 12s/11s then don't even consider a bridge. Just get a streetport. Only get a bridgeport if you are consiering 9s-11s and want (or need) to make over 500 rwhp. (even that is possibly on a streetport but becomes decently unreliable)
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A bridgeport with a stock or stock based turbo would probably be faster with NO turbo and just a header!
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600HP CLUB o yeah power isn't up to 10k, if built right it max out at 92oo-95oo. Doesn't kick until 4-5k, don't believe everything you read, wait until i finish everything, and i'll video tape it, sound wav it, and every media you can think of. And you'll really see, how a real peripheral port works.
O man, can't wait to see that!!!
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Originally posted by NA_VersionFC3S


O man, can't wait to see that!!!
While I was reading this I pulled up a old sound file of a 787B idling and the little eyes went perfectly in time with the idle of it LOL. But I wish that PIR didn't have a sound limit, cuz I would get a cheap 1st gen and P port it, can't wait to see yours though.
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