i have a 91 TII with a K&N drop filter and running full boost and good compresion well somebody wants me to race this B18B CRX with headers,exhaust,intake,ecu and i thinks thats it. just to shut him up. what do u think my odds are of winning??

-Neil

 

ok...your odds should be that your car should be a low14s to high 13s.....um.....my odds are you car should be able to kill that ....or else hes on the bottle then no help there brother....

takashi

 

wondering that to, except i have a 90 vert, only real mod is cone filter, and custom made air box,gutted cats, i still have the 3.9 gearing from when it was an auto

-Shawn

 

oh this is a hard one......your odds of winning......100% unless you lack driving skills. haha

 

ummmm I guess no one here knows too much about hybrids eh? A stock 91 t2 with a cone filter migh pull mid 14's. A b18b in a 2000 pound crx with I/H/E should be quicker than that. Race and find out.

 

At stock TII is low 15's, high 14's.
A K&N drop-in is only going to subract a second in their commercials, lol...

 

Well the CRX should weigh anywhere from 2000-2200 lbs with that engine swap depending on if he saved a bit of weight here or there or left it stock other than the engien. If it's a B18[u]b[/bu] that means it's only 140 hp at the flywheel!!! . Throw in say 20 hp for his exhaust and intake and ecu combo... so 160 @ flywheel = 140 at the wheels.
2225 lbs (including driver) & 140 rwhp = 14.60 1/4 mile.
****!!!
You should walk all over him.... unless he has a B18C, then dont' be suprised if he walks on you!!

 

I used to be a honda guy before I fell in love with the t2. With I/H/E on a b18b in a crx I would NOT be surprised to see it touch high 13's on drag radials. Let's say crx man is the average driver I still don't see it running anything higher mid-low 14's. Which like it or not is going to be faster than a t2 with a cone intake. Throw on a downpipe/midpipe combo and it's a whole different story.

 

a good pal of mine has a CRX with a similar swap thinks that a B18B CRX with headers,exhaust,intake,ecu should be running low 14's - high 13's depending on how good of driver is in the CRX, so looks like it should be pretty close.

 

Ok, so my calculations say 14.60.. .that's assuming a pro driver. Everyone suggests an average of low 14's.
So basically everyone here is in agreement his car should be in the low 14's. (possibly slightly more, possibly slightly less... but low 14's).

Now the question is, can a TII in excellent condition and a K&N filter low 14's? Hard to say... but I doubt it.
If stock is 15.25 (give or take 0.10) then I don't see a K&N dropping a second off the 1/4 mile time. Maybe take him down to mid-14's.

Am I right or what? Of course!!
The race should come down to which driver is better.

 

I know a kid with a CRX, the interior completely gutted and the same motor swap. He ran a 14.5 at the track with close to those mods.

 

The panel filter would be worth around 2 hp, if that. the restriction is not in the stock filter, but in the filter box.

The TII, if driven properly, will run 15 flat. You would lose this race.
Now, if you had full exhaust, it would be another question...

 

I think you'll win. Why dont you try and let us know

 

A stock S5 TII should get a 14.5 to 15 flat stock. If you cant get into the 14's on a properly running S5 TII u cant drive or ur car isnt running properly. I pulled a 15.1 with a slipping clutch and a cone filter. That was my first time at the track to. I would of been in the 14's but I screwed up on third (dont laugh) because my shifter bushings are SHOT and I still ran a 15.2 when I mis shifted. My trap speed for the 15.1 was 94mph.

Id wait till you get full exhaust before racing him just incase cuz you never know how good of a driver he is.

 

I've never had the pleasure of riding in a T2. However i have taken a ridee in 86 CRX with those same mods, and completely stripped interior, i must say i was very impressed.

Torque steer like a bitch tho.

 

Put down the bong!!! (ps - I'm serious!!)
It's EXTREMELY rare to find someone who tested a 100% stock TII in the 14's. Look at almost any car testing source, or magazines, or whatever, and they will almost always have it in low 15's.
The accepted number is 15.2 or 15.3.
I don't know how you ran 15.1 on a stock TII with slipping clutch and only a cone filter. Are you sure that wasn't your MPH

 

Agreed. There is no way you are a better driver than the professionals who test stock cars, lets be serious. 14.9 is the BEST I have seen from any stock test, and this achieved with run after run, beating the car to death.

A cone filter is not stock, it replaces a huge engine restriction. This makes your run negligible.
Can we see the timeslip, too?

And one more question.... why are you pushing a car at the track if you know it is not functioning correctly? Slipping clutches create a huge amount of heat which stresses the flywheel and clutch disk. It creates cracks in the flywheel surface, and the heat creates a HUGE possibility of the clutch overheating and letting go, not to mention the slippage creates a huge possiblity of the RPMS skyrocketing and pegging the fuel cut.
Jesus, buddy. Either you're lying, or completely negligent to your car.

 

Ill get my buddy to scan the slip, And makin a few runs at the strip with a clutch that slips(not alot but enough to make a difference) isnt going to harm anything, im not puttin down 400hp here, soo you can relax. Its only when I go into second gear to it slips a bit then it grabs and Im not going to be runnin lean when my car only has a Cone intake and my clutch slipped about 300-400rpm then grabed.

And ill put down my bong when I feel like puttin it down, for now its not going anywhere.

 

Oh yeah some one has a old car and driver magazine or something and they tested a 14.7 . I have to find it lemme search.

 

Exactly... 1-2 people out of 10,000 managed to get a 14.XX time out of a stock TII. Does that mean a stock TII runs 14.XX ? HELL NO!!!!!
I'm not even going to comment on this thread anymore. This reminds me of the lounge

 

buddy you need to relax man, people are just stating what they have experienced or seen other people get.

Why do i need to lie, I dont give a damn who believes me or not im just sayin what I have encountered. Dont go and say Im wrong when I know perfectly well what I ran at the track and I said u should pull those numbers I didnt say every single TII will get those numbers.
Kinda like the LS1's some camaro's ran high 13's some ran low 13's some even hit high 12's. I guess it all depends.

Anyway u have my opinion on the matter.

Good day

 

Ah the internet...

 

The final line is: a stock or near stock t2 with just a cone filter is going to fall prey to the b18b crx with I/H/E. If you disagree with me, then I guess ignorance is bliss. Go race and find out. Like I've already said, swap out for a 3'' dp/mp combo and it's a whooooole different story.