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Old May 23, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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MAF slapping (anoying)

Hey guys, Hope you can help me here. I've owned an 87 turbo II for a few years now. I've just done quite a few upgrades over the winter. Here's the problem. When I step on the gas and build boost, I get a slapping/slamming sound from the MAF. Some of the upgrades are....Greddy FMIC, rebuilt and street ported engine, HKS Sequential BOV, HKS PFC-Fcon. I am producing about 15PSI when really cranking on it. The car runs fine it just makes a slapping sound when I let off to shift. It's really anoying. I've moved the BOV from between the intake and intercooler to between the turbo and intercooler thinking that it would make a difference. No change. Please help me. I'd really be gratefull to you guys.

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Old May 23, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Bite the bullet and GET RID of it (and the stock ECU!!.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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I'd really like to, but don't have the money right now. And probably won't until at least this winter. Any other ideas on what could be wrong?
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Old May 23, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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I'd really like to, but don't have the money right now. And probably won't until at least this winter. Any other ideas on what could be wrong?
nothings wrong, they do that. if you crank it and stand next to the afm you can hear it, open and close
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Old May 24, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Put the stock air filter box back on.


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Old May 24, 2004 | 04:27 AM
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It makes that noise because that's how an S4 AFM works. The flapper measures the amount of air going in...
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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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So the slapping is never going away?? It never did it until I installed the intercooler and BOV. Why would it just start all of a sudden with those items? There must be a way to prevent it. Why would the stock intake make a difference. Either way, I have no way of putting it back on because of all the intercooler piping. Any other ideas??
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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Is there another MAF that would work in my situation that doesn't use the flapper door. Something with a hot wire setup instead that would work??
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by mazdarick
Is there another MAF that would work in my situation that doesn't use the flapper door. Something with a hot wire setup instead that would work??
Yes, you can wire the MAF/AFM from a S5 TII.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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how difficult would it be to do this. What years are the S5's?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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The stock air-box would make the noise go away because it suppresses sounds from the intake.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by mazdarick
When I step on the gas and build boost, I get a slapping/slamming sound from the MAF.
I find it really hard to believe you can hear a little aluminium flap "slapping" around inside the AFM over the noise of the engine and exhaust. Whatever you're hearing, I'm pretty sure it's something else (probably the BOV).

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you can wire the MAF/AFM from a S5 TII.
Waste of time and money.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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nope. I'm definately sure it's the maf flapper door. I stuck my finger inside the sucker the other day and cranked on the throttle. When I let off, the door smacked my finger so hard I thought it broke through the skin on the end of my finger. It hurt like hell. I think it's turbo surge???
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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could it be that your MAF sux *** it broke over winter? coudnt you try hooking up a diff. one?
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Old May 25, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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I have a similar issue with my S5....

have issue only since greddy FMIC install on stock AFM and Stock ECU

i have mine with these variables
1. 3200rpm to 4200 rpm
2. 1psi-7psi boost
3. 30% -70& throttle

if i mush down in it @ about 3000rpm and get boost above 7psi to goes fine past 4000and all the way the redline everytime
but say i want 4 - 6psi @ 3500 rpm i get a the whole car shuddering...

almost as if the AFM is bouncing back and fourth ....

i want to mive my AFM AFTER the turbo and before the intercooler..
so the air is pushed past instead of pulled past the AFM

the pulling actio may create a negative vacumm behind the dorr causing it to flap around.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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i got that blitz ss filter on my car. Hardly any filtering element, yet still i do not hear a slapping of the AFM. S4 TII
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Old May 25, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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Are you rotating the AFM from stock?


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Old May 25, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by mr_vaughn
I have a similar issue with my S5....

have issue only since greddy FMIC install on stock AFM and Stock ECU

i have mine with these variables
1. 3200rpm to 4200 rpm
2. 1psi-7psi boost
3. 30% -70& throttle

if i mush down in it @ about 3000rpm and get boost above 7psi to goes fine past 4000and all the way the redline everytime
but say i want 4 - 6psi @ 3500 rpm i get a the whole car shuddering...

almost as if the AFM is bouncing back and fourth ....

i want to mive my AFM AFTER the turbo and before the intercooler..
so the air is pushed past instead of pulled past the AFM

the pulling actio may create a negative vacumm behind the dorr causing it to flap around.
My problems are also very similar to yours. The problem only occured after the Greddy 2 ROW V-SPL FMIC and the HKS (actually MONZA) SSQV BOV.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by RETed
Are you rotating the AFM from stock?


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I actually made sure that the AFM is at the same angle as it was when it was in the stock airbox.

Do you think it could be because it's a MONZA (HKS SSQV CLONE) BOV?? Maybe I need a lighter spring.
How much vacuum should it take to open the BOV with the HKS SSQV. I currently have the stock boost sensor, the HKS PFC-FCON boost sensor, the boost meter and the BOV all tapped off the save vacuum tee. Could this be the reason.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Anyone else have any ideas. I can't beleive that it's just something I'm gonna have to live with. I know other people with similar setup with the slapping....
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Old May 25, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Sounds like the boost in the intake is making it slam shut when you let off the throttle. your BOV adjusted right?
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Old May 25, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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bad bad bad for turbo
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Old May 25, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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I just took the adjustment screw and cranked it all the way out. It's basically just there now to plug the hole. The slapping noise has gone from slapping every time I let off, to only once and a while. I also removed the POT (I think that's what it's called) and I haven't heard it at all. The POT I'm referring to is the little thing that allows the throttle plates to close more slowly when letting off the gas quickly. I haven't actually taked it for a ride yet (bad weather), but I was able to reproduce the problem by just sitting in the garage.
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