blwn rtr 89'

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im in very dire need of advice right now.

i have about 3k in hand, and am ready 2 drop a motor into my car, but i really cant decide.

my second 12 pack and 3ed pack of smokes isent doing what i wanted it 2 either.

i was about 2 just order a t2 front clip and do the full swap into my 89 n/a, and use the stock t2 ecu which wont but up any unsolveable issues really.
and call it done until i get more cash.

pros:

-ok cost
-extra parts 2 sell
-a turbo
-car that moves

all sounding good

but my target goal is somewhere around 350-400 whp which is obtainable through the right means(money, money, time, money)

im straying from my point-

the bre is a proven better platform 2 build off of vs. the s5 t2

---the stick in my ***----

i have no means of affording any kind of stand alone ecu any time soon,

unless ne body is willing to be generious


whats stopping me from hooking up a s/5 t2, or brew transmission to the 13bre

and running it w/o problems.

pros:

-can get complete uncut 13bre harness+ecu

-its a bad *** motor

cons:

-trouble with ecu (unless ne body knows something i dont)

and fyi if the ecu is flashable, my next door neighbor is a japennese computer programer and said with a little reading up and small fee ---beer---

he could "make it work"

wtf should i do?

Wanked_FC

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most of the jdm engines have to be rebuilt anyways.

blwn rtr 89'

iTrader: (5)

so whats there 30 day "start up warrenty" about,

if it starts it works.

or does it have 2 comform 2 some kind of compression test?

Wanked_FC

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Eh, just because it starts doesn't mean its not a piece of ****. They sit for ages, with varying states of compression some good, some lousy, some blown. Good luck getting any company to actually cough up on that warranty, especially if you have to truck freight it back to them for said warranty. You also never know how much it was beat up by the previous owner. Usually pretty abused.

blwn rtr 89'

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what would u do.

s5 t2

or bre

reguardless of warrenty.

i mean w/o stand alone, should this decision be easy?

wiL87

i've been thinking about this situation also.. except i haven't put as much thought as you into it. is smog a problem? california smog sucks =(. I would do a bre swap but there doesn't seem to be a complete writeup on how to do it. but i'm a noob

blwn rtr 89'

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most of my problem has 2 do will being incapiable of supplying the green for, a haltech, wolf 3d, or should i be so lucky an m2r,

i know the trans will fit from the t2,

but if i get this motor, and my car still wont at least move it self 2 storage until i can afford the rebuild.

im going 2 go dential, postal, hanniable, or ne thing that involves shitting on some one just as bad(beer talking)

wow, i donno, each motor is a click away+ a 3 or so week wait

wwjd, ali, sarddathard guthama, genish, gandi-----

someone who understands the needs of a fellow 7 owner,

speak 2 me in the ways of mel gibson, as he did 2 the cops when he was busted for his dui- stright foward, honest, and completely correct.

for now this thumb>< is lodged in my ***.

sharingan 19

iTrader: (16)

Don't know too much about the RE, or what this T2 front clip is gonna cost ya, but It seems that from a cost/complication standpoint you should go w/ the BT. You know the ecu, motor, harness, etc bolt right up and will run the motor.

That way you won't have to worry about a stand alone that you may or may not be able to afford (after you've put away a G into the "I hope I didn't just put a Japanese time bomb into my car" fund) You might be the lucky one that gets a Jspec motor w/ 100+ compression.....or maybe not.

If you get a good one, Hooray, you can spend money on wheels, suspension, power upgrades, whatever.

But if you get a bad one, its gonna take a decent chunk of change to rebuild. But at least with the BT you'll still have everything you need to get the car running.

Now if you were to get a bad RE, seems like you'd have to chose........rebuild, or buy stand alone so i can run the bad motor...:-( boo to both of those choices.

A T2 is a big enough upgrade over an N/A (power wise) to keep you amused for at least a few months or so. In the mean time you can save up for the power upgrades to get you to were you wanna be.

And there are plenty of BT's making 350 +

Aaron Cake

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The TII engine bolts right in. The RE does not. For 350 to 400 HP, you are fine on the S5 TII engine.

MaczPayne

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You'll most likely have to rebuild the engine when you get it. Only a few people here have gotten lucky and scored an engine that was in good condition.

That start-up warranty, it's a good thing yes, but think about this:

-It starts, good. But it has blown coolant seals.
-It starts, but has low compression
-It starts, but eats oil.
-blah blah blah.

There is a big difference between a motor that starts... and a motor that starts, and runs well.

Prepare to throw in atleast 5k to get it all running PERFECT.

ivegonemad

if you cant afford a standalone go with a t2 because a RE does require a standalone,
yup my car had the 13bre in it all already, but it had low compression so i am rebuilding it...previous owner didnt..

Spectator

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Me!!

120 PSI on all rotors and no shot coolant seal.

Woohoo!

JMIce

same here, although i rebuilt anyway to have a port done. How ever ive heard of alot more jdm motor problems from the states then i do down here (not to say we dont have any)

But as far as my input if you dont have the money to go microtech/whatever get the bt and you can run it without a standalone and then when you have enough money throw it in and you'll get your desired power achieved but untill then atleast you can drive/ do minor power mods.

blwn rtr 89'

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alright, ive been doing more thinking as well and, i guess with out being made of money t2 is the way im going.

on the other hand......

i have the money 2 get my n/a rebuilt w/a streetport, and all fresh seals, but, im looking at a tiny power upgrade, ive even got some racing beat headders, the only thing im missing from a decient n/a set up is new coil packs, injectors, and velocity stacks and if i play it right buy the time the motors back, i would probley be able 2 go stand alone.

this set up even if i still use my current afm and cold air set up, and still go stand alone,

i mean my car was pretty quick b4 i cooked the rear stationary gear,

but ive never drivin a t2,

am i looking at the same kinda power, moded na vs stock t2?

i mean on one hand the reman n/a i know will be a solid running motor, new seals, port, ect...

but from what ive heard if t2 swaps, is that thats the way 2 go fast,

pros:

better platform w more potential

turbo

faster

cons:

jdm time bomb syndrome

may not be reliable

i forgot last night that this is also an option i am strongly considering

i mean i want a fast 7, but i also want 2 know that when i take out the woman the key goes into the hole, turn, put in gear and drive away clean.

but then again i dont want 2 get smoked by a del sol or the dude with the caviler (everybody knows what im talking about no matter where ur from, theirs at least 1)

TitaniumTT

new coil packs huh? Why are there turbo guys cranking off 2-3x n/a power with factory coils?

I suggest a lot more searching and a lot less suggestions. Start writing down all the parts you THINK you are going to need than mae sure you don't need more. Stick to a budget too. Velocity stacks and upgraded coils alone do not hp make

phoenix7

way too much thinking going on here.

go TII (13B-T) plug and play. easy. Once it's running then you can start modifying it.

Since you've never driven a TII then you'll be satisfied with the power of a stock TII. Once you work everything out and you're ready to upgrade you can start doing so. Until then stop thinking so much and just go TII.

Now if a girl dumps you because you got beat by a cavalier then I suggest you stay away from high school chicks. Or at least hope she's the kind of stupid **** that gives you head while you LOSE to a cavalier.

rotary-guy

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go TII

Wanked_FC

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Plug and pray.... whoops... thats Microsoft's slogan.