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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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intercooler piping

im going to be installing a fmic from a evo II. the guy doing the piping is saying to go with 1 7/8 inch piping for faster spool. i think the inlet and outlet is about 2 1/4 to 2 1/2. what should you guys recomend for faster spool? its for a 13bt with a streetport and a t04b h trim and the most 18 psi, probrably average 10psi? thanx
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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i would only go 2.5"
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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yea wtf, 1 7/8ths? nonsense...
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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a whole 8th inch ehh why not 2? Anyways hes ignorant it would be wise with that large of a turbo to go with 2.5 actualy 2in is a good bit small for even the stock turbo when your charge travels all that distance when there is nothing to be found from the aded volcity and little to lose from that amount of pressure drop. There is realy no advantage and only disadvantages to go with 1 7/8th over 2.5in pipe.

I would also recomend a larger IC and a good stand-alone EMS.

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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whats wrong with the evo ic? dont evos run like 18-20psi stock or something ridiculas like that...seems like they'd be fine for us.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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What part of EVO and rotary are alike? Research intake charge temps and combustion temps compared to detonation with a rotary under boost. The evo TMIC is fairly small and not worth it if you are going through the hassle of a FMIC why skimp now? With a stock turbo it would be sufficient for 12psi but at 18psi on a T04 no there is allot of power to be found in just a larger IC.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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where did tmic come from, factory front mount buddy, they are of reasonable size and alot of people use them as upgrades on other cars
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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where did tmic come from, factory front mount buddy, they are of reasonable size and alot of people use them as upgrades on other cars
Yea I was thinking STI when I typed TMIC. Anyways who gives a **** what other ricers do for upgrades. Why dont you stick to actual charts that show the advantages and so on for core size and inlet outlet sizes.
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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^lol, im sorry but your an idiot. evos run crazy boost stock (part of the reason i dont like them) and mitsubishi designed them to be every day drivers, you think they didnt consider heatsoak, effeceincy, and pressure drops? your a little too quick to cut some one down. why dont you get your facts straight first... people run fuso box truck intercoolers with no problems. its a matter of being resourcefull. most of us cant afford (or know better) than to drop 1200 bux for a ******* intercooler and piping. especailly when you can peice your own kit together for so much cheaper, your really only paying for the name spray-painted onto it.

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1300ccTuner
the guy doing the piping is saying to go with 1 7/8 inch piping for faster spool.
Far too restrictive. Go with 2.5" or 2.25" minimum.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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^lol, im sorry but your an idiot. evos run crazy boost stock (part of the reason i dont like them) and mitsubishi designed them to be every day drivers, you think they didnt consider heatsoak, effeceincy, and pressure drops? your a little too quick to cut some one down. why dont you get your facts straight first... people run fuso box truck intercoolers with no problems. its a matter of being resourcefull. most of us cant afford (or know better) than to drop 1200 bux for a ******* intercooler and piping. especailly when you can peice your own kit together for so much cheaper, your really only paying for the name spray-painted onto it.
Actualy your an idiot for walking up thinking you have the facts and compleatly neglecting the work I have performed and studied on here. Actualy I piced my FMIC kit together. If you had actualy done one befor you would know the differances from piceing one and how close the actual cost comes to a kit. You need to stop comparing a 4cyl EVO to a rotray engin. "OMG they push so much boost I hate you b/c im a ricer and want a big BOV that says RFL to be bettor then an EVO take that" Dood I beat EVOs with the stock FC turbo at 11PSI. They are in no way alike whatsoever! Do I not think the factory thought about heatsoak? Do you think mazda realy thought about it befor they put the stock TMIC heat interchanger up there on the FC? You need to get the boost numbers unstuck from your *** and relise that the amount of the # means about didaly right now. The end tanks alone in the IC of an EVO will cause pressure drops and lag and turbulance. Why do you keep finding the need to compare yourself with what others do with box truck intercoolers. Wel then why dont we just use the 40x50x4in IC from my dads truck that should be good too right? Why dont you actual learn about them befor rambling your trap?
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by -efini-
^lol, im sorry but your an idiot. evos run crazy boost stock (part of the reason i dont like them) and mitsubishi designed them to be every day drivers, you think they didnt consider heatsoak, effeceincy, and pressure drops? your a little too quick to cut some one down. why dont you get your facts straight first... people run fuso box truck intercoolers with no problems. its a matter of being resourcefull. most of us cant afford (or know better) than to drop 1200 bux for a ******* intercooler and piping. especailly when you can peice your own kit together for so much cheaper, your really only paying for the name spray-painted onto it.

OMG its not nice to call people an idiot when they certainly know more than you.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Actualy your an idiot for walking up thinking you have the facts and compleatly neglecting the work I have performed and studied on here. Actualy I piced my FMIC kit together. If you had actualy done one befor you would know the differances from piceing one and how close the actual cost comes to a kit. You need to stop comparing a 4cyl EVO to a rotray engin. "OMG they push so much boost I hate you b/c im a ricer and want a big BOV that says RFL to be bettor then an EVO take that" Dood I beat EVOs with the stock FC turbo at 11PSI. They are in no way alike whatsoever! Do I not think the factory thought about heatsoak? Do you think mazda realy thought about it befor they put the stock TMIC heat interchanger up there on the FC? You need to get the boost numbers unstuck from your *** and relise that the amount of the # means about didaly right now. The end tanks alone in the IC of an EVO will cause pressure drops and lag and turbulance. Why do you keep finding the need to compare yourself with what others do with box truck intercoolers. Wel then why dont we just use the 40x50x4in IC from my dads truck that should be good too right? Why dont you actual learn about them befor rambling your trap?
mazda did alot of things wrong with our cars, thats besides the point, there 15-20 years old. im in no part saying evos are better cars than fc's, your obviously not understanding the point im trying to make...evos run like 20psi from factory, higher psi, means less dense air, less dense air means HOTTER air, but im sure you knew that already... if a ******* stock evo fmic can lower the temps of a daily driven 20psi, with out these "pressure drops" your keep talking about, im sure its enough to handle his 10psi.

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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
Actualy your an idiot for walking up thinking you have the facts and compleatly neglecting the work I have performed and studied on here. Actualy I piced my FMIC kit together. If you had actualy done one befor you would know the differances from piceing one and how close the actual cost comes to a kit. You need to stop comparing a 4cyl EVO to a rotray engin. "OMG they push so much boost I hate you b/c im a ricer and want a big BOV that says RFL to be bettor then an EVO take that" Dood I beat EVOs with the stock FC turbo at 11PSI. They are in no way alike whatsoever! Do I not think the factory thought about heatsoak? Do you think mazda realy thought about it befor they put the stock TMIC heat interchanger up there on the FC? You need to get the boost numbers unstuck from your *** and relise that the amount of the # means about didaly right now. The end tanks alone in the IC of an EVO will cause pressure drops and lag and turbulance. Why do you keep finding the need to compare yourself with what others do with box truck intercoolers. Wel then why dont we just use the 40x50x4in IC from my dads truck that should be good too right? Why dont you actual learn about them befor rambling your trap?
whoa i was just asking a question about ic piping wich would be best. not to take shots about my ic or my bov. i mean wdf you need to get a girl. thanx NZConvertible for keeping it simple
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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-efini- - No you just don’t plane understand. 1. The charged air is hot b/c it is being compressed not the density it is the rapid change in molecular structure.

Yes the EVO FMIC will work and bettor then the stock TMIC. For the price he could get a larger IC to use with more functionality is the point. Oh yea stop comparing EVOS and rotary’s again plz they are irrelevant and you look dumb.

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go with 2.5
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