Ignition Timing
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Ignition Timing
Alright, I got a few problems here with my timing. First off, my car started to hesitate t high RPM. I have already gone through everything else so I checked the timing it was a little off, So i adjusted it. Then a while later I go back out to take it to the autoparts store and it is really idling like **** and it sounds like it is knocking? So I checked the timing again, and it was way off, I could not even see the timing marks..WTF. So i reset it and checked it then. it was fine then I reved it up a little, and the timing advances like it should.. I think. then it did not drop back down to where it should be? So I guess my question is what would cause this. Also what controls the timing advance? Please any help would apprecitated. I am in real jam here.
BTW...I did do a search and I could not find much useful info. Thanks in advance.
Marc
BTW...I did do a search and I could not find much useful info. Thanks in advance.
Marc
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Come on guys. Know I got the TPS adjusted. But the timing still is erratic. I set the timing everything is good. But when I blip the throttle is advances then doesn't quite come back all the way. Then it detonates a few times then it retards the timing. I really have no clue on what to check next.
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Ok one more final post before I call it quits for the night. Now while I got the timing light on the car and get the timing set, everything is good. I hold the throtlle partially open and the timing jumps all over the place. It advance a little the the car pings a little, so it retards the timing. it did this continually. Then I opened the throttle a little more and the timing mark completely disappeared,. i left off the Gas and it is still gone. Please anyone with some advice. One thing I was thinking would be if the gear on the eccentric shaft was moving around, but that is kinda far fetched. PLEASE SOMEONE.
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I checked the CAS, both the resistance values are well within spec. I think i am going to take my car in somewhere and have them diagnosis it. Does anyone know a good shop in Albuquerque, besides the dealer. Which really aint a good place but one of the only. Anyways thanks for the advice, keep it comin though. I really hate to take it in.
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sounds like you need to ground your computer better... my car was doing almost that exact same thing.. first i thought it was timing and a shitty CAS, then I thought I had a bad AFM, then I pulled the ECU plugs off and spliced in a ground to the pins 2R, 3G, 2C and 3A.
see post https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=189092
see post https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=189092
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It's like this. The car should never be timed until the car is fully warmed up. Initially the timing is RETARDED while the engine is cold/cool. AFTER the temp is up to speed the timing returns to *normal* or where ever it was set the last time the engine was timed.
If I walk out to any of my cold cars right now and put a timing light on them the timing marks will be close to twenty degrees retared (if memory serves), but if I wait til the thing warms up it'll be spot on where it should be. Been there...done that.
If it's not what I described above....then make suspect the water thermo sensor, air intake temp sensor etc for obvious reasons.
If I walk out to any of my cold cars right now and put a timing light on them the timing marks will be close to twenty degrees retared (if memory serves), but if I wait til the thing warms up it'll be spot on where it should be. Been there...done that.
If it's not what I described above....then make suspect the water thermo sensor, air intake temp sensor etc for obvious reasons.
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are you gounding the set plug before adjusting / checking the timming??
also it can only be done at or around 750rpm . if you idle is higher then forget about trying to adjust it.
also it can only be done at or around 750rpm . if you idle is higher then forget about trying to adjust it.
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what is a CAS and AFM? do these threads apply to timing a 85 12A rx7.? My car is idleing rough and when I slow down like getting off a freeway it back fires slightly not loud little short poofs. so I usually put it in nuetral so I won't hear it . I just replaced the ignotor and pickup coils insoide the distributor, had to take dizzy all the way out to replace them. now the tack works and timed it. I did not know about 750 rpm while timming I did it just at idol . when I do come to a stop after a full ride down freeway it idols so slow that it seams like it's going to die then if I wait about 35 -40 seconds I can feel it staighten out to a normal idle. why is it loading up. I don't have any trouble with high end cause once I'm to 3rd she moves just fine and can cruise 80 still flyin. it does hesitate 2 to 3rd a bit but it used to just backfire for the last 4 months on decilleration. I thought it was because the ignitor and pickups were not operating but fixed those and it does backfie on up shift now also .
whew.......
any help gladly welcome.
JR in CA
whew.......
any help gladly welcome.
JR in CA
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888888888888what is a CAS and AFM? do these threads apply to timing a 85 12A rx7.? My car is idleing 8888888888888888888
IF I were you, I'd post in the 1st Gen Forum on this site IF you want a straight answer. Trust me on this.
IF I were you, I'd post in the 1st Gen Forum on this site IF you want a straight answer. Trust me on this.
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This is a one hundred year old post brought back to life by a non series four/five owner. He ain't a gotta the cas, afm, ECU thata we a gotta. He needs to go to the first gen forum for help, although some of us did own first gen cars and can fix 'em just fine and dandy.
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