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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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If you Eliminate Emissions do you have to...

If you eliminate emissions stuff with block off plates, Im guessing that you HAVE to eliminate the OMP as well? bc it uses the VAC lines ? Or is there a way to work around this?

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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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The brittle OMP lines are connect directly to the oil injectors. Which are connected to a sort of vacuum tube spider, which connects to the bottom of the upper intake manifold, i believe.

So no, you dont.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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No emission systems are connected to the OMP system. As long as the vacuum hoses between the injectors and vacuum source are connected (and no vacuum leaks), you're fine.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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So running the vac line from the four way splitter to the intake mani is all that is needed to keep the OMP operational?
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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yes you need to FRESH metered air (not vacuum) for the fuel injectors and oil injectors. Search my username I have a previous post with links about this..... You can keep the OMP functional after removing everything by the way.....
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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for any further questions, consult the faq.
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2n...s_removal.html
btw, this subject has been beatin to death

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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And for that matter, you don't want to remove the following them making your emissions removal:

-hot start solenoid
-BAC valve
-cold start thermowax
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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I bought a block off plate kit from bonzai and it came with a BAC plate. Why would they send me this if your not suppose to block it off? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, just trying to understand a reason. Thanks
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hv_lineman
I bought a block off plate kit from bonzai and it came with a BAC plate. Why would they send me this if your not suppose to block it off? I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, just trying to understand a reason. Thanks
You can, but driving a BAC-less car on the street is not fun. It is responsible for compensating for loads on the engine (ie A/C, etc) and I believe it also helps keep the car alive before it warms up when you first start it. Basically, it allows air to bypass the throttle body when the TB is closed to maintain idle.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
And for that matter, you don't want to remove the following them making your emissions removal:

-hot start solenoid


I don't know man, have you ever seen intake temps get that high on a hot start? Even on FD's I never have, and their IAT sensor is in a heatsoak-prone location under the UIM. Highest IAT I have ever seen on any car was maybe 74 C? And that was on an FD hot starting on a 100 F degree day.

Speaking of FD's, the FD uses a fuel temp sensor to switch the pressure regulator control solenoid. But that is also tripped at a ridiculously high temperature (for fuel at least):



I'd say keep it if it ever actually engaged, but you'd have to be hot starting in Death Valley or something for it to actually work. I've never heard of anyone vapor locking a fuel injected rotary.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Yeah, true enough. It's just not a traditional "emissions" component so I don't know why people pull it out.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Thanks, I will def leave it on. Especially considering I replaced the coolant lines for it a month ago. I guess people just get too gung ho to remove every possible component on their car and it still "kinda" runs. IDK haha
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