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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Hows your A/C doing?

Here are some results from a recent drive in Dallas.

Stop and go traffic I-635 LBJ Freeway
Highest fan speed
Recirculation on
Outside temp was 96*.

My center vent temps in stop and go traffic were stable in the 39*f +/- .5*f.

I was able to snap some cell phone pics during the stops.

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R12 (mod?) The Real Deal.
Ford Taurus Radiator fan. The fan automatically turns to high speed when the compressor operates, low speed is temperature controlled on at 200* off at 195*.
Evans NPG+ Coolant.

Later on the way home, in traffic moving an average of 25 mph, the temps were in the 34-35* range. I didn't snap any pics this time, as I was busy surviving another trip down I-635 LBJ.

What this cannot really capture is how rapidly the car cools down and also how little difference there is between idling in stop and go traffic and driving down the highway.

This Taurus fan on high speed is simply amazing! The A/C is stable and cold. In traffic when the A/C compressor cycles, sometimes the fan turns off because the radiator temp is below 200*.

Very cool, highly recommended.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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I need to get mine going here before long. Mine needs charged badly, it has enough to kick the compressor on, but blows no cool air whatsoever.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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I had mine R134 converted and charged about a month back. Things get cool, but midday its SO hot and there's so much glass in the FC that its hard to get it "cool". It gets comfortable, but doesnt get "cool".

I need to install the a/c fan in front of the condensor and radiator, because my car does not have one installed. I hope this helps with the cooling as well as the engine temp with the a/c system on.

I'm thinking of having my windows tinted darker and even getting a tint on the windshield (illegal, yes, but.... well, you know how it goes).
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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I have a noob Question. You can make a custom A/C system for the FC or you have to buy the original system? I have no A/C and I want to install it cause it suck big time driving around without it...
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kenny senter
I had mine R134 converted and charged about a month back. Things get cool, but midday its SO hot and there's so much glass in the FC that its hard to get it "cool". It gets comfortable, but doesnt get "cool".

I need to install the a/c fan in front of the condensor and radiator, because my car does not have one installed. I hope this helps with the cooling as well as the engine temp with the a/c system on.

I'm thinking of having my windows tinted darker and even getting a tint on the windshield (illegal, yes, but.... well, you know how it goes).

What is your middle vent temperature at idle and driving down the road at 50 mph? Use recirculate mode and high fan. Let the car cool down as much as it can, measure the temps. If you cannot get 45*-50* at idle and 40*-45* at 50 mph, then the system is not working very well. This would indicate another bad 134a conversion.

Florida is a really tough environment. You should really try the Freeze 12 for Florida. Except for R12, nothing works as well. R134 is NOT a good idea for FC's. The condenser is not large enough and the fan doesn't pull enough air to work well with 134a. It will work fine with Freeze12.

Good luck!
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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I have a noob Question. You can make a custom A/C system for the FC or you have to buy the original system? I have no A/C and I want to install it cause it suck big time driving around without it...
Buy the missing parts off the forum. Lots of the northerners take out the AC and sell the parts.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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I wouldn't know... i turn it on from time to time (well certain passengers do) and we're never in the car long enough to really know.... that and the fact my car will randomly stall out sometimes coming off of revving with it on... should look into that... maybe.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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last i saw mine i was sending it off on its marry way to the landfill
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Old May 29, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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My a/c needs to be charged. Where would you get that done?
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Old May 29, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis V
My a/c needs to be charged. Where would you get that done?
You can get it done at a local A/c shop. If you want to try it yourself, read up at the A/C forums. Those guys are really helpful.

http://www.acsource.net/acforum/view...e6e5281331a7e2
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Old May 29, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Old May 29, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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has anyone did the r134 autoparts store conversion yet?? i did this to my old 190e.. and i dont think i did it right.. didnt get cold or stay cold.. and it was confusing..

but i had a friend do it to his 240sx and it worked great,.. so im tempted to try it on the fc.. just wondering if anyone did it?

jackhild59- did you upgrade your alt when you threw in the taurus fan? thanks
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Is it common on an 88' RX-7 to have the RPM go up (by 200-300, maybe more?) when I turn on the A/C?
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Yeah mine will do that. Then when i try to start the car again it will die.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypertek
has anyone did the r134 autoparts store conversion yet?? i did this to my old 190e.. and i dont think i did it right.. didnt get cold or stay cold.. and it was confusing..

but i had a friend do it to his 240sx and it worked great,.. so im tempted to try it on the fc.. just wondering if anyone did it?
The FC is really not a good candidate for R134a conversion. There is not enough condensor area. Use freeze12 instead. You can buy it on ebay. Lots of FC guys in Arizona do just fine with the Freeze12.

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jackhild59- did you upgrade your alt when you threw in the taurus fan? thanks
No, I did not upgrade. I have a relatively new alternator (1 year old) that works very well. The Taurus fan pulls about 21-22 amps on low,with a 30 amp startup spike then on high it pulls about 25-27 amps with a 38-39 amp startup spike. These are not my numbers, they are from a mustang forum. My voltage dips right when the fan starts, but recovers right away and runs 13.8-14 volts.
I think I can live with the S5 alt. until later this summer when I redo the sound system. I will either have to go with the FD alt. or have mine rewound to put out more like 100-125 amps.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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I have nothing against windows but when driving in a 400whp+- with the normal hight rotary engine temperatures and tropical island with fckng humidity, you realize how important an A/C is sometimes....
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by K4Lic0
Is it common on an 88' RX-7 to have the RPM go up (by 200-300, maybe more?) when I turn on the A/C?
Yes, the BAC bumps it up in anticipation of the additional load when you turn on the a/c.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhild59
The FC is really not a good candidate for R134a conversion. There is not enough condensor area. Use freeze12 instead. You can buy it on ebay. Lots of FC guys in Arizona do just fine with the Freeze12.



No, I did not upgrade. I have a relatively new alternator (1 year old) that works very well. The Taurus fan pulls about 21-22 amps on low,with a 30 amp startup spike then on high it pulls about 25-27 amps with a 38-39 amp startup spike. These are not my numbers, they are from a mustang forum. My voltage dips right when the fan starts, but recovers right away and runs 13.8-14 volts.
I think I can live with the S5 alt. until later this summer when I redo the sound system. I will either have to go with the FD alt. or have mine rewound to put out more like 100-125 amps.

r u using the 95 V6 fan? I'm using that one... Works amazing...
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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A/C?

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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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A/C?

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