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Old May 23, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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How much for water sealz and rebuild costs?

I have fuel in my oil so people say I have blown water seal. I was wondering how much it would cost for a mechanic to replace it...The engine is 18000 miles old so I dont need anything else...
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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It still requires a tear-down and a rebuild, so you're looking at full rebuild labor costs.



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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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I dought it...Replace all the apex sealz exc (another 2300 bucks) for a water seal???
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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you are still going to have to pay for his LABOR to open and put it back together.
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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YESSSS...LOT DIFFERENT THEN PAYING FOR SEALZ BEARINGS EXC EXC EXC....LABOR? LABOR? PART COST? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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DO IT UR SELF...OR WOULD THAT TAKE TOO LONG..
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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you can estimate about 150 in parts. if you pull and install the motor about 4 hours of labor. i really can't see him taking more than that to change out the water seals.
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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Back to the original statement... I don't think that a blown water seal could cause fuel to get into your oil -- I'd check up on a few things first!
1). If the car isn't losing coolant, chances are the water seals are OK
2). If the car was recently flooded / is running rich, then there will be fuel in the oil

Do some more research and give us some more info before you drop what'll probably run close to $800 on what might not be the problem.

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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by piston eater
Back to the original statement... I don't think that a blown water seal could cause fuel to get into your oil -- I'd check up on a few things first!
1). If the car isn't losing coolant, chances are the water seals are OK
2). If the car was recently flooded / is running rich, then there will be fuel in the oil

Do some more research and give us some more info before you drop what'll probably run close to $800 on what might not be the problem.

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I totally agree. Your water seals arent the problem. There isnt really a problem, unless you have a lot of gas in your oil. Most rotaries will get a little gas int eh oil, just from running rich, especially on cold starts. And it you flood it, that adds to it quite a bit.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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ok guys..heres the lowdown...Thiers TON of fuel..I mean I can only smell it. I will drain it today.

THiers always going to be fuel in the oil. BUT Fuel doesent condense, therefor the vapor from the leaking seal can condense thierefor bringing the fuel vapor to the top of filler neck and letting it drip down in puddle form...This is what someone said...Its not normal because it never happend until now wich telz me something is working differently.

Car never floods...Starts the first click. That would be great if their isnt any prob with the water sealz...in fact I dont even know what they look like. Just the apex sealz I was familiar with.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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it's probably not the water seals inspite of your fuel vapor theory. Pay close attention to the oil level for a few weeks. If your oil level is not dropping like it used to, its not fuel fumes but fuel dilution in oil. That would mean oil o-ring problem or side sealing problem. In any case, it is going to cost you atleast $1000 for someone to rr the motor and tear it down. So it would be wise to find out if indeed you are getting a lot of gas in oil.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Well it smelz bad and thiers lots of white goo in filler neck. When I take off the oil cap I see clear liquid drop from it..Mabey 2 drops after I take it off?
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Old May 25, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Hey well i am puffing white smoke and it was suggested that my coolant seals were gone and i would need to tear apart the engine! how hard would this be and how many parts am i looking at? If you have already dont this then please PM me cause i really need to get the smoking prob fixed as i cannot drive it till i do or i will serisouly screw up my motor!! Is it somethign that someone with moderate knowlege on the cars can do! I have the haynes manual! any info would help!
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Old May 25, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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I puff no smoke.
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