dennis blackstone

the reason for paste its from articles from floodind if you read it .and why should you car if theres multiple posts i learned how to rebuild and check specs from crazy posts like these threads.its a bunch of info on keeping your car tuned and up to par to prevent floodind and what method you used to fix it .im not insulting your demeaner its alot of reading its my thread and im not hurting anyone just helping

NZConvertible

Earlier in the thread you kept asking for flooding "fixes", and everyone kept telling you that the only fix is a rebuild. I thought that message had gotten through. The fact that you started the thread doesn't give you the right to post misleading info. Start a new thread if you want to share info on those topics, but don't post it in the context of "fixing" flooding problems because none of them will help at all.

dennis blackstone

nzconvertible problem is that i fixed my flooding problem if you read my post i already had rebuilt my motor i rewired my starter relay and i posted pics of my procedure with hailers theory and other tid bits i gathered i fixed my problem long time ago i rebuilt my motor with knew housings ive rebuilt over a dozen motors , my friend was crying to me to rebuild his motor with worn housing because he did not have the money he had no problem with flooding .. before you start boasting your mouth off get your facts first! your trying to start trouble on the forum to a person whos trying to help newbies ..grenches like you should be banned from the forum! we all are not smart like you

NZConvertible

What exactly was I boasting about?

Like I said, inferring flooding "fixes" that won't do squat is not helping anyone. Whether the info is useful or not is not the issue, it's that you're posting them in a thread about flooding. If you have anymore useful info on flooding then bring it on, but I think the topic has already been covered very thoroughly.

I don't know what a grench is, but I doubt that'll be happening any time soon.

dennis blackstone

now nz let me help you understand your not seeing the whole picture ...many people have posted there fixes in flooding ..if you still dont get it let me break it down 1 our cars are old (2)the fuel system is week (3) electrical is week(4) low compression ..now wait for it !!! if you streghthen all the week links maybe you can fix your problem with flooding knew spark plugs ..sometimes your injectors leak ..week starter ..week battery ecu bad transistors and so on if you cant understand that you should buy a honda ,hating is for other forums ...please grow up excuse me if im being rude

arghx

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ok i lost track of this thread 7 pages ago, but it's pretty simple

1. check compression

2. if compression is ok, clean your injectors

3. if you have an upgraded fuel pump with the stock FPR, you are more susceptible to flooding.

just about everything else is a bandaid, although flooding can cause fouled plugs which in turn make it harder to start the car

NZConvertible

I just re-read the thread from the beginning, and IMO I see to understand this issue far better than you. I'm not the one who asked if there was a "gadget" to fix all flooding problems. I'm not the one who's asked the same question about upgraded fuel pumps three times in this thread, not just twice as I thought above.

Many people posted some band-aids for reducing the chances of a worn-out engine flooding. Many people also posted that the only way to fix the problem is to rebuild the engine if compression is low or clean the injectors if they're leaking. There are no other fixes.

The only part of this paragraph that is correct is the bit about low compression. The rest is just bollocks. Other than leaking fuel injectors, the fuel system is not what causes flooding. The electrical system is not what causes flooding. The spark plugs are not what cause flooding. The ECU is not what causes flooding. You can fix all the weak links you want, if the compression is low or the injectors are leaking, the engine will flood.

You should look up "hate" in the dictionary...

dennis blackstone

well my friend it seems you've won the battle but ask your self this if I have built engines with worn housing and low compresion how is it that it does not flood ...remember I build engines my last motor had a little polishing on the ports knew housings and it flooded I did a rewire and the flooding was gooooone ..the questions I may ask on the forum are questions from friends who want me to post them on the board ..because I'm tired of fixing everyones car for free and when I need something no one is around ...and I'm sure a few members have friends like that...

NZConvertible

You need to improve your writing (grammar, punctuation, etc), because I'm really not sure what you're saying...

dennis blackstone

well you see i did not grow up with a silver spoon so my grammar sucks but my engines run strong i learn by trial and error im not smart like you ,but i can problem solve and get the job done and im not into bashing peoples threads i can take critizsm but who cares... if im reading some ones thread if they have bad grammar im not going to insult them ...they may have had it hard in life and have a learning disability ...please get of your high horse ...you win

NZConvertible

Silver spoon?!

I don't hear any logical responses to my criticisms of the info you posted. If you can't tell the difference between an insult and the honest truth, you need to grow thicker skin. There was no insult, I really didn't understand what you were saying. If you want me to start insulting you, just let me know, but I don't see any point in that...

Jesse[SM]

I wired in a switch to the fuel relay, then the engine was broken in and stopped flooding, then i blew it up.

dennis blackstone

trust me I have thick skin that's why I say you win ...but you keep ranting and raving like a 5 year old ..all the information here is for your picking and if think the info is logical you go for it! like I said before my seven is fine .my buddys ask me to post questions because I'm not fixing anyones car anymore for free ...if you have common sense and the info is wrong don't be a wise guy help to find a good solution ...

NZConvertible

You have a short memory. Go back and read all of my posts in this thread (post #70 was my first). I've contributed far more useful flooding info than you have. The "solution" has been posted numerous times.

dennis blackstone

like i said you win

petex

I have a car with terrible clicking and mad hotstart issue. engine has good compression. i'm doing starter rewire tomorrow.

i just find out about this topic, dennis blackstone, you are my man

i'll let you guys know, how it turns out.

dennis blackstone

thanks petex im just trying to help i have more picks of my rewire if you need them but its pretty simple , with my problem i could not get the starter to spin fast enough so i rewired the relay and now it spins like crazy ,which in turn builds good compression ...but i did some other things before that with no success i (1) changed the injectors ...and did some normal tune up stuff like knew spark plugs fuel filter changed the battery terminals knew grounds etc but when i rewired it that solved my problem. ive built many engines some with old housing and some with knew none of them flooded except my last one and i fixed that with a rewire

petex

dennis>

i did the rewire and the started spins like crazy, car starts right up, NO CLICKING AT ALL. my car doesn't flood at all anymore, but i found out that i have another issue.

my plugs are fouling pretty bad.

previous owner had microtech ecu installed and i believe the fuel pump is on at all times and it runs really rich. i had the car idling in my driveway for 45 mins and it sucked 1/4 tank of gas...

but yea man, your starter rewire is definitely a good thing. very simple too. i basically looked at your picture and did the same thing

only difference was, the wire that puts out 12v when key is in start position and clutch pressed is not BLK/WY wire but on my car it was BLK/BLU wire, i have the 10th anniversary with factory alarm.

dennis blackstone

petex im so happy we could help you with your frustration. i posted a chart on spark plugs that may help...but if you have a bigger fuel pump its going to dump alot of fuel, if you have a standalone you should be able to control that on a dyno

dennis blackstone

I know this is nothing to do with flooding and ill be getting flamed for putting it here ...well i dont care its for those who want to install a fd alternator its real easy, i bought the fd alt on ebay for 30 bucks i bought a dual pulley from banzaitoyata on ebay which was made specially for the fc to fd conversion, all you need is three copper crush washers remenber the shaft is 17mm the fc shaft is 15mm now the pulley goes on easy like you see in the pics i had on old s5 plug laying around so spliced in the blue and white wire which is going to go to the battery now the black and white wire goes to the ond plug now if your looking at the the plug its the verticle spade T into that wire ,on top of the alt has a 12mm nut you put a 12 gauge wire to the battery from there ...in all you have to hot wires coming from the alt and one to the dash ......it takes an hour to do everthing i get 14.6 ideling if i turn on the lights i get 14.5 ... i know this is nothing to do with flooding but i cant help my self to help others...ps this is for the series 4

Ks86Fc

I just read this entire thread, lots of good info, thanks.

I have had a flooding problem for over a week now. Parked my car after work the thursday before christmas, it snowed the next day alot, I dont drive my 7 in nasty weather. Went out few days later to fire it up and no start. I had spark, fuel was there, but it smelled flooded, did everything that was noted in this thread about pulling the EGI fuse/pull spark plugs, crank over and try it again.

I did all that this past weekend and it fired up, drove it around for a while came back to my house shut it off. It sat for about 1 hour, then went back to move it into my shop and would not start, flooded again... My dad and I think its the injectors leaking. Is this correct?

Now, do I need to just buy new injectors, or just take them somewhere to get cleaned??

My car has 71,000 miles on it.

NZConvertible

It could be injectors leaking or the engine could have low compression. If the injectors are leaking you don't need to replace them; just have them professionally cleaned.

Both the compression and the injectors can be tested first before you spend any money. The FSM has a procedure for leak-testing the injectors.

dennis blackstone

it cold be low compression or leaky injectors same thing happend to me 13 years ago, it s was winter bitter cold drove it parked it ,next day it would not start i had no clue on rotarys so the car sat for over 4 months i finally got it started ..but my theory was that my battery was week in them cold months so it would turn over slow then it would leak then i figured out my starter trigger wire was,nt giving enought juice to my starter i combined them two voila no flooding ... but i may be wrong for your problem ...but i would check that your battery is strong your starter is up to par ,your compression is good and you dont have any leaky injectors...but i must note a few engines i have built had used housings and low compression and when i rewired the starter and knew battery and grounds they never had a problem with flooding kevin landers from rotary ressurection builds motors with used housings and has no problems with flooding

Ks86Fc

Thanks guys, I will be working on it this weekend, I will let you know how it turns out...

petex

Ks86Fc,

do the starter relay first. you can always take it off, no need to cut stock wires and stuff.

it's EASY, CHEAP, 4 wires, one $3 relay or any 30A relay.

i've been around rx7 for 10 years or so, but this is the best trick for flooding, hands down. i was seriously amazed how well it worked.

MAD PROPS TO DENNIS BLACKSTONE, he knows his ****.