2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

How to decipher oil o-ring failure from turbo oil seals

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 9, 2002 | 06:40 PM
  #1  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
How to decipher oil o-ring failure from turbo oil seals

I finally got my new motor in and running, but I am having problems. I ran the car for about 15 min and it wouldnt stop burning oil. I put oil in the intake to get some initial compression, but not THAT much. I checked the oil level and it was low, the car hasn't run but for about 35 min total since i filled it up. I have good reason to believe that the turbo is the cause of the oil. How can I decipher between the motor 0-rings and the turbo oil seal as the culprit for the smoke?
Thanks in advance,
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2002 | 07:50 PM
  #2  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Pull the spark plugs to see if they are "wet" with oil...


-Ted
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:10 AM
  #3  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Thanks alot for all your help Ted. Anyone else have any input on this??
Here is a little better explanation of the circumstances... https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...633#post922633
Thanks in advance once again
Drew
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 02:51 AM
  #4  
hypntyz7's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: usa
FWIW< When I start a fresh rebuild, and dump in some oil to start, it takes a full hour of running at 1.5k in trhe driveway to burn it out of the engine/manifold/cats/exhaust.

IT is normal for a fresh rebuild to not want to idle, but you should be able to get it at 1000 or so. Use starter fluid to check for vacuum leaks.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 03:05 AM
  #5  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Thanks Kevin, but shouldn't the smoke have subsided a little by now? It just pours out still just as it did at initial startup. Also, please email me about those tailights I bought from you, i sent a PM a while back, guess it didnt go through. dcamco@houston.rr.com
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 09:27 AM
  #6  
HAILERS's Avatar
HAILERS
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 20,563
Likes: 27
From: FORT WORTH, TEXAS,USA
About a year ago a fellow on this forum rebuilt his engine with a buddys help. It smoked heavily forever. He took it back apart and found they had put the oil seals in backwards i.e. oring facing the housing instead of the rotor. He rebuilt it since and it runs good. Lives in Nebraska somewhere.

YO, look at the plugs, but just reconfirm what hypntyz7
said, if the internals were slathered with vaseline and oil, it could take up to an hour to burn off the excess oil because at first it just gets thrown in the exaust unburnt and the exaust has to heat up enough to burn it off.

Should have subsided by now though, if its been running continuously for thirty minutes or so.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 09:36 AM
  #7  
tims's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,289
Likes: 0
From: North Hollywood, Ca USA
if the plugs are fouled with oil the oil is coming from inside the engine, if plugs are clean the oil is coming from outside the engine(turbo). very easy to check and diagnose.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 05:28 PM
  #8  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Here is the smoke I'm talking about:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46524308lvLcXU
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46524324JOWIQf
Here is what I found on the turbo:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46524382rEdWLX
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 05:29 PM
  #9  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
View full size on the last one and you can see it alot better.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 06:26 PM
  #10  
SonicRaT's Avatar
Super Raterhater
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,630
Likes: 3
From: NY, MA, MI, OR, TX, and now LA or AZ!
That smokes exactly like my car is doing, I'm pretty sure it's the oil seals in the engine since I took the turbo off and saw it was flooded with oil inside and I turned it over a few times to see if I could pump it out and it just returns with the turbo off.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:15 PM
  #11  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
hmm, I really hope that is not the case. Like i said, the motor is brand new. I do not have time or money to fix it if its bad for another year
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:18 PM
  #12  
SonicRaT's Avatar
Super Raterhater
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,630
Likes: 3
From: NY, MA, MI, OR, TX, and now LA or AZ!
That's pretty much the same boat I am in, take the turbo & manifolds off and see where the oil is, if there's a puddle in only one rotor, then it's pretty obvious.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:35 PM
  #13  
dcamcoTII's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 555
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Well I guess that is the only thing I can do. pull it off and pray.
did yours look like this?? http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46524403yGAjXS
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:57 PM
  #14  
SonicRaT's Avatar
Super Raterhater
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,630
Likes: 3
From: NY, MA, MI, OR, TX, and now LA or AZ!
Yes, it looked EXACTLY like that, my wastegate was filled with oil, everything was I guess you have to take it off and look, mine was easy to tell due to the front rotor being filled with oil and the rear not having a drop, good luck.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
Jul 1, 2023 04:40 PM
FD7KiD
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
15
Feb 26, 2021 10:12 PM
FD7KiD
Single Turbo RX-7's
1
Aug 17, 2015 11:50 PM
KAL797
Test Area 51
0
Aug 11, 2015 03:47 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:16 AM.