FORD 80mm MAF conversion, has it been done?
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This is Another one of those threads where someone tells the world he's going to do this that and the other to replace the stock afm and.........each and everytime it comes to not. Hot air wind bags all. I think they'll all wind up as Greeters at WallMart in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Tech_Greek
if you think I'm an idiot and think I'm wrong you'll be forking out money to the dealerships every 2 months...
And yes, I do know more than you in this particular situation. Get over it. I assure you that you know more than me in MANY other areas. Not in this case though.
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Indeed, I'm the same way. I just was commenting on the fact that, no matter what you post here, there's always someone who will comment, regardless of what they don't know about the situation.
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too much missing from the story, all anyone could do is assume and probably what the mechanic did as well.
we all assume on a daily basis, to say we don't is dilluting yourself. an example would be driving down the street assuming the person in the right lane with the right turn signal on is turning right but in fact could pull a u turn right in front of you.. sure it is no where near the same but it is still an assumption.
the factory doesn't pay to actually diagnose problems unless there is a wierd circumstance causing the issue, an example would be the factory pays us .3 hour to replace the MAF and up to .3 diagnostic time to find the problem. .6 hour total, in other words, 33 minutes to find and repair the problem including test drive. most of that time is spent getting parts and the actual repair, not diagnosing because the factory seems to think the parts should be right next to you, the tools in your hand and you know exactly where to look to diagnose the problem.
sometimes assumptions are all we can do.
we all assume on a daily basis, to say we don't is dilluting yourself. an example would be driving down the street assuming the person in the right lane with the right turn signal on is turning right but in fact could pull a u turn right in front of you.. sure it is no where near the same but it is still an assumption.
the factory doesn't pay to actually diagnose problems unless there is a wierd circumstance causing the issue, an example would be the factory pays us .3 hour to replace the MAF and up to .3 diagnostic time to find the problem. .6 hour total, in other words, 33 minutes to find and repair the problem including test drive. most of that time is spent getting parts and the actual repair, not diagnosing because the factory seems to think the parts should be right next to you, the tools in your hand and you know exactly where to look to diagnose the problem.
sometimes assumptions are all we can do.
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They still get you in trouble on a forum. Also, you seemed to have missed the whole idea, you made an assumption on something you knew nothing about. And, last I checked, I don't assume jack **** when driving, you can be sure as **** I'd be expecting someone to pull a ******* U-turn in the middle of the road from the right lane with their right blinker on. You can't drive in Houston and assume people are going to do what they show you!
Thank you, come again!
(And you still missed the whole point, which was that you rattled your crap off to something you didn't know much of anything about.)
Thank you, come again!
(And you still missed the whole point, which was that you rattled your crap off to something you didn't know much of anything about.)
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Originally Posted by evileagle
Like I said, we're workin on it, but there has been too much beer involved!
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it was an example not a fact, you are just being thickheaded as alot of people on this forum and in the world are. only seeing your side of it and not even trying to see it from other people's point of view.
when people bring their vehicles into the dealer they often do not know what problems they even have or lie to have things checked out for free and often times they get away with it. like today for example, i work on a car and notice the Service engine soon light is on(check engine light for current models) but there is no mention of it on the repair order, you can bet the customer said it was never on after he gets his car back. we ended up fixing the car under warranty even though we were technically not supposed to since it is a chevrolet, he was out of warranty and we are not a chevrolet dealer.
sometimes the only thing you have the option of doing is assuming.
when people bring their vehicles into the dealer they often do not know what problems they even have or lie to have things checked out for free and often times they get away with it. like today for example, i work on a car and notice the Service engine soon light is on(check engine light for current models) but there is no mention of it on the repair order, you can bet the customer said it was never on after he gets his car back. we ended up fixing the car under warranty even though we were technically not supposed to since it is a chevrolet, he was out of warranty and we are not a chevrolet dealer.
sometimes the only thing you have the option of doing is assuming.
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Originally Posted by Karack
it was an example not a fact, you are just being thickheaded as alot of people on this forum and in the world are. only seeing your side of it and not even trying to see it from other people's point of view.
Just because you deal with it on a daily basis, doesn't mean you can automatically know everybody's situation.
But you seem to be missing the point, assumptions based on your own experience of a situation is acceptable, but assuming someone elses is general a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Karack
the K+N is what made it fail...
technically it didn't fail though but the filter oil coated the tiny resistors in the MAF with filter oil and threw off the readings causing the ECU to go into default readings.
if the technician was smart he would have printed off the factory service bulletin and tossed it at you, charged you for the MAF and walked out of the room.
if you gave me a headache over it i would have thrown it right back at you, you realize factory mechanics get paid dirt from the factory to work on your rigs?
try being a little more considerate next time, so long as he wasn't trying to charge you for the MAF then i would say he was doing you a favor by letting you know.
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(4 year old posts, i'm thinking this forum needs auto locking topics because this **** is starting to **** me off)
technically it didn't fail though but the filter oil coated the tiny resistors in the MAF with filter oil and threw off the readings causing the ECU to go into default readings.
if the technician was smart he would have printed off the factory service bulletin and tossed it at you, charged you for the MAF and walked out of the room.
if you gave me a headache over it i would have thrown it right back at you, you realize factory mechanics get paid dirt from the factory to work on your rigs?
try being a little more considerate next time, so long as he wasn't trying to charge you for the MAF then i would say he was doing you a favor by letting you know.
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(4 year old posts, i'm thinking this forum needs auto locking topics because this **** is starting to **** me off)
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I used ignorant for a reason. Nice try though!
(Simply because, quite honestly, you saying immature is just like felix calling someone a n00b. Considering you've got a god complex over the fact that you're a factory tech, and you pretend that entitles you to know everything there is to know about people who take their vehicle to a dealer, I figured it was a pretty useless term)
(Simply because, quite honestly, you saying immature is just like felix calling someone a n00b. Considering you've got a god complex over the fact that you're a factory tech, and you pretend that entitles you to know everything there is to know about people who take their vehicle to a dealer, I figured it was a pretty useless term)
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