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Old 12-24-04, 10:34 PM
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FMIC and an e-fan question or suggestions

well i have a large intercooler i plan on setting in the front of my FC when i have the time and get the piping, but i have one reservation and issue. the IC will be partially obstructed by the front bumper but it will fit an e-fan, my plan was to mount it on the back of the IC with a pull type e-fan and remove the stock e-fan mounted to the front of the condenser and hook it up with a slightly lower temp coolant switch in the radiator so it would come on when the engine is lukewarm ie, sitting at stoplights when it and the radiator need the additional cooling from heatsoaking. it may reduce its efficiency when cruising on the highway though but it won't need it so much as it will be cool enough without any engine heat.

is this a good or a bad idea? it sounds good in my head but i always like to get others opinions.

btw, if any of the mods are in a bad mood i did a search but i couldn't come up with the answers i was looking for. i would have thought this would be more of an issue on these cars with limited cooling capabilites.

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Old 12-24-04, 10:45 PM
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A pusher fan does not work as well as a puller fan. Always try to use a puller configuration whenever possible.
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sorry i confused myself again, i got half of it right. i meant a pull type of fan on the back of the intercooler, similar to a e-fan car.

i worded it a little better for clarity.
Old 12-25-04, 04:01 PM
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These cars don't have limited cooling capacity. The stock cooling system is quite capable of cooling high HP cars.

That said, I can't figure out what your question is. This may or may not be the answer you want.

Use a puller fan on the rad. It will pull air through both the IC and the rad. If you want, you can use a puller fan on the IC as well to reduce the work of the rad fan, but you're drawing a lot of current in that case.

Summit Racing sells a digital temp gauge that also functions as a fan controller, with high temp alarms and a seperate on and off temp. It's $99, but does everything you want.
Old 12-25-04, 04:07 PM
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Old 12-25-04, 04:42 PM
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as i said the IC will partially be obstructed but will have airspace to draw air, i don't believe i could mount it close enough to the radiator to allow it to draw air through all 3 cores without possibly having high temp issues, i plan on keeping the condenser and A/C because it gets upwards of 115 degrees F here and i planned on using this as a DD.

i hate e-fans because of bad experiences, manual fan clutch fans are a more reliable way of cooling and i won't pass on that until i break the 300RWHP threshhold where/if i do it won't be my DD anymore. to me, anything below that point is not worth the risk of an e-fan for strictly engine cooling. i guess i could try to mount it up in front of the condenser but it will heatsoak up there and it could cause fitment issues, i will have to take more measurements and think this out.

i guess i could duct it all so that the stock fan pulls from the front and hope that it is an airtight setup since it will be mounted away from the other cores.

my initial thoughts were to get rid of the stock pusher e-fan since it does little good anyhow and put in a puller fan on the IC core running when the temp is around 100 degrees or so, a thermostatic relay and sensor could accomplish this. it would keep the IC cool all the time and provide extra cooling for the engine since the radiator would be slightly more obstructed.

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Old 12-25-04, 07:32 PM
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Intercooler

I installed a Saab blackstone I/C in between my condenser and my Rad It seem to cool fine E-fan pulling in front of the Rad. I have the engine out for paint and rebuild now. I hope to use the same set up, when I get done
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interesting setup, i haven't seen anyone put the FMIC between the condenser and radiator before, keeps it nice and clean so you don't have to cut holes for the piping and nice straight shots so less length and lag.

only issue i would have with that setup is a) the condenser will preheat the intercooler, this would be a much better setup without A/C. b) a pusher fan is not as efficient as a puller, if you run the A/C on a hot day and drive fairly heavy footed i'm sure the car will likely run warm or even possibly overheat at stoplights or in mild/heavy traffic. i would suggest putting a fan behind of the radiator instead of in front.

i may even do this style of setup but maybe slightly different, i don't like e-fans for a main source of cooling but i may try it to see how it works, if i don't like it i can at least go back to stock without any damage to the chassis.

with the mods i am installing it may very well hit 300+ RWHP once i have it all tuned.

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Old 12-26-04, 08:23 AM
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The e-fan is on the engine side of the Radiator, I probably didn't explain it well. As far as the condenser. I will not run the A/C and Boost at the same time, I know Ill boost some but I'm talking hard runs, track days ect.
I think my set- will be about 265 hp maybe 285, if I go with the haltech this will be the last mod I do.
This is my engine bay now. I have a lot to it is being painted as we speak.
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