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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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My car flooded not long ago and I got new NGK spark plugs and when I went to take the old ones out and put the new ones in the old ones would not come out. anyone have ideas why?? also I have a chance to buy an '86 GXL w/o ps, and it does not run other wise it is a pretty good car. is it worth it or not??


I have a '87 GXL
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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Might be rusted in. How long did the car sit flooded?
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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not long, within a week.

where can i get the tool used to take the plugs out, normal sparkplug tool does not work
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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The metal used on the spark plug (steel???) reacts to aluminum adn over time they will fuse together. I always put "never sieze" on my plugs before installing them. Same thing will happen if you bolt an aluminum hood to your factory hood brackets without some kind of means to keep the two from bonding.

If they are siezed, you are gonna need new housings
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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I have run across this problem many, many times on aircraft engines. The previous post about the anti-sieze is right on. It is also very important to torque the plugs properly. Relying on your hands to tighten the plugs will invariably result in overtorque.

I have used the following method to loosen frozen plugs in aircraft engines; First get the engine to operating temp. Shut down the engine and immediately freeze the spark plug by spraying it with freon or CO2 Any other method to get the plug very cold very quickly will work. This will shrink the plug enough for it to turn loose.

As for the spark plug wrench, if you have access to a lathe or a belt sander you can remove a little of the outer diameter on the socket to allow it to fit between the plug and the shoulder that surrounds it. I also have a Snap-On brand socket that was thin enough to fit without modifying it. You might try looking for a thinner walled socket.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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I have run across this problem many, many times on aircraft engines. The previous post about the anti-sieze is right on. It is also very important to torque the plugs properly. Relying on your hands to tighten the plugs will invariably result in overtorque.

I have used the following method to loosen frozen plugs in aircraft engines; First get the engine to operating temp. Shut down the engine and immediately freeze the spark plug by spraying it with freon or CO2 Any other method to get the plug very cold very quickly will work. This will shrink the plug enough for it to turn loose.

As for the spark plug wrench, if you have access to a lathe or a belt sander you can remove a little of the outer diameter on the socket to allow it to fit between the plug and the shoulder that surrounds it. I also have a Snap-On brand socket that was thin enough to fit without modifying it. You might try looking for a thinner walled socket.
thats cool and helps but i can't start it, thats why im replacing them in the first place, but thanks for the help tho. I just bought the car about 2 or so months ago. Im thinking of just going to a junkyard and getting an engine and rebuilding since the Mazda dealer wants $1,995 for a shortblock and gaskets(S4). im going S5.(yes i know whats involved in the swap)
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