walterh

Ok, Guys, I am getting ready to put together my new 13b n/a engine and have a few questions. I have already pulled the old engine from the car. (sitting on my patio). My plan is to build my new engine, then take all of the accessories (metering oil pump, injectors, etc.) off the old engine and put them on the new engine. Has anyone done a write up or have a good plan on the order things should come off the old engine and put on the new one? This is my first rebuild and would appreciate lots of info. I will post pics once I have my car running. Thanks in advance!!!!

Rotorific

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Follow the factory service manual or even a haynes (not as good but works) -Gabe

walterh

anyone else?

Matlock

My opinion! I think everyone does it differently. There are no definitive anwsers. I'd say use the manual and as long as it all gets done and works, then your way was the right way. I have done this and I say if it works then it works. Sorry for not answering your question exactly.

Rotorific

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Ok maybe it was a quick answer to a more complicated answer. Honestly its just something you look at and take apart...its not hard at all and using your head can figure out what needs to come off first... Intake/air box, upper intake manifold, injectors, lower intake, exhaust mani, then maybe stuff up front like alternator and water pump or maybe do that first...its all up to you and how you like to do it. Please keep in mind i dont have alot of stuff to take off on my car anymore and there are some things like PS and AC...i usually leave them for last right when the enine is coming out of the car...AND the various vaccum lines...I dont have but 2 now but make sure you label the vaccum lines to keep track of where they go or you might get lost along the way of installation. -Gabe

Aaron Cake

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If you are rebuilding the engine, and have to ask how to remove the accessories, I do not predict this rebuild will go very well.

However, you should follow the instructions in the Haynes or Factory Manual (which you should have if you are rebuilding) for the specific order. Basically, alternator, airpump, upper intake, vacuum spider, lower intake, exhaust manifold, water pump, etc. Whatever is the most logical order.

walterh

Well there Aaron, I figured someone would be a smart ***, and my friend you are it!!!!!! I was just trying to get a lilttle insight. I can't wait until you need some help, so I can tell you to f**k off!!! I do believe the rebuild is going well, this is just the first rebuild I am attempting and i'm trying to gather as much info as possible. Bet your *** I'll be back with the status of my car. Thanks to the other guys for the info!!!

Matlock

Have you purchased the Atkins video. It's great, it is probably one of the best resources I've come across. It helps to see and not just read. I recommend it. Let us know how your progress comes along. I am in the middle of my second rebuild and you learn a lot.

Roy James

You have to realize the humor and logic of Aaron Cake. Im sure you'll be eating those words when your post reads "how do you turbo an N/A?"

I think you should get the atkins video for sure, and if you have never swaped a motor before you are into a bit of work. Plan for about a long weekend of just taking your time to do it. Scathart (i think thats how you spell it) did a decent write up of how to do an engine swap (good basic *** information that should get you started).

walterh

Well guys, i have the atkins video, but it is limited to what it says about removing all the **** that is connected to the engine. i can handle it, i am mechanically incline. I am just starting to the learn the rotary, and was able to tear it down without any probs. I am no expert, and I don't really care how to turbo an n/a. If i want a turbo, i'll go buy one ...... sorry, i thought you people came to this for for info???? and hey aaron, f**k your prediction!!!!anyway, i'll have pics when it's running.

scathcart

As long as we're being smart-asses, your english sucks.

Icemark

I guess you don't want much help in th future... bad mouthing people that know more than you.

And I agree with Aaron... You should be using the manual and if you asking how to take off the accessories...

Newbies (shakes head)

darkwaveboi

hey man, calm down a bit. At least you got the ***** to tackle the task of rebuilding yourself. kutos to you

walterh

thanks darkwaveboi. I appreciate that!!!

Taelem

look Walterh,
I agree with darkwaveboi, you've got the ***** to do this project, lots of people just talk about it- I hope it goes well, and with help from the people on this board it CAN!
and speaking of doing things most people only TALK about, thats where Aaron Cake comes in- he knows his ****, ive read tons of posts by him and he's got lots of first hand knowledge, and is a very logical thinker- you dont have to love the guy, but he's answered lots of good questions. I think you just took his comment way too seriously- lighten up, especially if you want help from this community in the future-

AND GOOD LUCK!! cant wait to see those pics of the car and maybe a sound/video of it running?

F1blueRx7

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Gah...

Don't knock someone that's learning.... You guys were not born with the knowledge of rebuilding or turboing your n/a you got that information from asking questions and exp. I've learned everything I know about my FC through exp, asking questions and reading through the archives.

Instead of "You've never done this before? You are definatly going to mess this up."

Try: "Here's the info you need, Good luck on your first rebuild."

It's responses like Aaron's that shy people away from DIY jobs, and then have to shell out cash that they wouldn't have to otherwise to do a job that they've been scared out of. (sounds confusing, it's not)

A rebuild is definatly something that is a big deal and takes alot of FC knowledge to complete, but it's done before and def. been done by people that have never done it before.


-Mike

Crionics

/me comes out of hiding...Is it clear yet?

Roy James

Oh, you mean this isnt good enough?
Now how in the hell would giving me the information i asked for stray me away from a DIY project? Ok, sure thing buddy.

OK....who was really a smart ***? everyone that posted a "smart ***" responds has also put in words of wisdom, aside from yourself. Im going to sit here and defend Aaron Cake by agreeing with his first post. If someone has to ask how to take the accs off the engine and they are planing on a DIY rebuild soon after, i would also make the same prediction that it will probably not go very well. Is that knocking them? NO, if it is, maybe you should come out of your sheltered world and step into reality, we are mearly trying to save a guy some trouble.

NO ONE said "you are deffinatly going to mess this up". I love the way people on here try to due justice and only stretch the truth in order to suit a non valid arguement.

Walterh- your god damned attitude is just about to **** me off. Explain to me how me, Aaron, or anyone on this thread (aside from a few that come to this thread just for a smart *** remark such as f1blueRx7 and our favorite canadian Scathcart ) have not givin you any "info" which you come to the forum to get? And then you go and bitch about us not giving you any information simply because we think that if you have to ask how to remove the AC and manifolds ect, that you might not want to take on a rebuild? F that, this is the thanks we get for helping newbies. SEARCH from now on damnit.

oh yeah, and good luck on your rebuild (happy?)

Rotorific

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confidentxfear: wheres the post
DrMaxit: ******* newbies **** me off
confidentxfear: haha
confidentxfear: that one guy with the motor swap?
DrMaxit: yeah he's a ******* moron
DrMaxit: everyone helps his *** out, and posts good information
DrMaxit: and his *** only bitches about it
DrMaxit: and cries to his mommy
DrMaxit: what a **** head
confidentxfear: haha
confidentxfear: yeah
confidentxfear: i was the first one that helped
confidentxfear: atleast he didnt say **** about me
confidentxfear: id be all over his ***
DrMaxit: and aaron helped, and i helped, and all he has to say is "any one else?"
DrMaxit: or "i knew there would be a smart ***, F you F this"
confidentxfear: yeah
DrMaxit: "i thought you were supposed to get Info off this forum"
confidentxfear: your all about the f u today
DrMaxit: man, this guy can kiss my ***
confidentxfear: haha

Ok maybe this shouldnt be here but this goes to show you what some of the more experienced/knowledgeable people see day in and day out. With that this is what we trully think about people that come on the board, ask for help, and in turn start talking **** when they have little to no knowledge about the people that are trying to help. Thus why you are called newbies. If you come on the board thinking you know it all when you know jackshit then your gonna get flamed and quite possibly never get the help you need. With that im sure this is gonna get modded but hope this gives you some insight. -Gabe

F1blueRx7

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Roy, I didn't come here to be a smart ***. I came here to learn about my FC and watching people have to defend their own questions is rediculous.

My point is this... If he ***** it up... Lesson learned. You don't need to flame it for him.

I'm not gonna stoop to name calling or talking down to anyone, this is a technical forum. Not an AOL chatroom.

walterh

Ok, guys, I looked at the FSM. Should be nothing to it. I'll post my car after I get it running, and believe me I can do it. We'll see what this newbie can do. Hopefully, this thread will die. F***k debating!!!! I am glad to see that some people want to help, though. I guess the experts just want to make fun of the newbies. Grow up!!!

scathcart

That, or we're sick of answering the same questions everyday. The experts are here to answer questions which require thought, something of which obviously missed you when you were unable to scroll towards the right-hand corner of the screen. You asked a question we see daily; what did you expect?

The funny thing is that you tell us to grow up, yet who was the only one in this thread to begin swearing and calling childish names?
Anyone else find this ironic?


I will answer your question for you: Yes, there are several good write-ups on engine and accessory removal. The Haynes, the FSM or even "Engine Removal Write-Up" posted by me give a great walk-thorugh.
To prevent mocking in the future, 95% of the questions you will ask have been answered a million times before, and the "search" function will bring up these responses.

And the "I'll show you what a newbie can do" comment.... Go nuts. Knock yourself out. If you succeed, congrats to you. If you don't, no major loss.
It is no loss of credibility to us, nor do we really care if you succeed or not.

But honestly, if you can't figure out how to remove a few external nuts and bolts, I have no idea how you are going to go about measuring wear specifications on parts. While I am sure your engine will run (anyone can build an engine that runs)... but we will see exactly how long the engine lasts.

FCdemon

scathcart-- if you're sick of answering the questions, DON'T CLICK ON THE THREAD! You guys were all newbies at one point! I'm still one myself, so give us a break for chrissakes. The search doesn't always turn up an answer to a specific question, and sometimes stuff needs clarification.

geoff