anyone ever done it

as in a front mount used in junction w/ the stock topmount?

im thinkin bout doin it but wanted some feedback beforehand

thanks

 

First of all, any system that retains the stock TMIC is less than ideal as it heat soaks terribly and will serve as a bottle neck in the system since its pretty worthless at higher than stock CFM levels.

Where do you plan to mount this second IC? How will the piping be routed?

Seems like by the time you run all the extra piping to connect the two, you will have as much (if not more) piping as a more efficient FMIC system. (which will be even more than a V-mount.

Im also pretty sure running dual IC's would increase pressure drop as well.

 

The front mount will cool the air then the top mount will heat it back up.

 

That's exactely what I was going to say.

So are you saying that an FMIC is more effiecent than a VMIC? Would you care to back that up with proof or is this just more interenet hearsay from someone who really has no proof or knowledge?

 

ahhh ok i was going to run it on the right side but i see now that the TMIC acts more as a heater than cooler. scratch that idea then

Question 2:

how can i route the piping so i can keep my accessories?

 

If you can get a FMIC w/ not many bends and most connections welded, it would be more efficient than a Vmount seeing as it is directly in the airstream, with no restictions, the only reason someone would do a Vmount is because of how much less piping there is so less pressure drop but it is more efficient than a TMIC

 

LoL me 2!


I think he means that the FMIC will have more piping than the FMIC.


I think you will find that most people who have done FMIC and gone to VMIC have found the VMIC to not only be more responsive due to the lack of piping but when properly ducted with a vented hood it may also be more efficient.

 

hmm, i was suggesting if the body was stock(aka no vented hood or ducting)

 

Reading comprehension FTW

 

anyone have a link to a cost effective/good FMIC/VMIC kit?

 

Yes

No

The stock intercooler is the most cost-effective.

 

ha

at what psi does it become inefficient to use the stock TMIC?

 

anything past 12psi...i myself wouldnt go past 10psi

 

A VMIC in combination with a well vented hood will result in a lot more pressure difference (in front and behind IC) than a FMIC with a radiator mounted behind it ever could. This way a VMIC will have much more air passed through the IC... frontal area is not that important, since you don't want the air to hit the IC and stay there, you want it to pass through and make room for more air going the same route.

Riz.

 

dual intercoolers is pointless unless you have twin, non sequential turbos.

 

im already running 10 so i guess a FMIC is due

 

ha so im gettin a free FMIC from a buddy woot!

 

Great minds I guess

That being said a VMIC withOUT a ducted hood would probably be as effiecent as a FMIC but still more responsive because of the lack of miles of piping. There is at least one member here running a VMIC with no dropvented hood and he has ZERO problems with IAT's. In fact, just to put an end to all this internet garbage I'm going to do some datalogging and dyno pulls with a stock hood, a drop vented hood and no hood just so we can have some actual data becuase this is certainly not the first nor will it be the last time this was asked.

 

Great idea! can't wait to see the results.

 

nice!