2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Does anyone have pics of a vmount setup on a fc?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-08-05, 03:54 PM
  #26  
NorCal 7's Co-founder

 
BoostedRex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
But for how much?
Old 06-08-05, 04:07 PM
  #27  
The Silent but Deadly Mod

iTrader: (2)
 
Roen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NYC/T.O.
Posts: 4,047
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
what does the vented hood look like in the vmount set-up?
Old 06-08-05, 04:18 PM
  #28  
NorCal 7's Co-founder

 
BoostedRex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
http://www.importfan.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=1871

That is one of a few different designs that will work.
Old 06-08-05, 05:34 PM
  #29  
The Silent but Deadly Mod

iTrader: (2)
 
Roen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NYC/T.O.
Posts: 4,047
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
ooh, if I go vmount, that's a nice hood to pop on top.
Old 06-08-05, 05:57 PM
  #30  
NorCal 7's Co-founder

 
BoostedRex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Yes and no. The original Knightsports hood is nice. That one is a second rate copy. The craftsmanship is average at best. You can find the original hood at www.rotaryextreme.com Just my .02 anyway.

Zach
Old 06-09-05, 12:01 PM
  #31  
The Silent but Deadly Mod

iTrader: (2)
 
Roen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NYC/T.O.
Posts: 4,047
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Well, since I'm new to this, what are the advantages of a v-mount set up versus a FMIC or a topmount? Which is the cheapest out of the 3 to do to the FC and which one has the most power potential? Also, how does the vmount work? In the FMIC, the air passes directly through to the intercooler. With a vmount, does the air pass through the radiator and then into the intercooler, or is there a separate duct? I'm just wondering.
Old 06-09-05, 12:05 PM
  #32  
Ready to Rock

 
ultradef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts


Do you guys think that the vents on this hood are too close to the windshield to be effective for a v-mount? Many of the vented hoods I've seen on v-mount applications are closer to the front of the car in order to let the air passing through the intercooler escape. But I'm no physicist and airflow, high/low pressure areas are not my specialty.
Old 06-09-05, 12:15 PM
  #33  
Yes, that is my name.

 
JamesBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Santa Cruz Mtns
Posts: 519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you look at the ducting on the underside of the hood, it should work perty good for V-Mount.
Old 06-09-05, 12:15 PM
  #34  
Rotary Freak

 
Bukwild's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DC Area
Posts: 2,702
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
yes this hood will not work for vmount. It will work for your standard fmic setup
Old 06-09-05, 03:09 PM
  #35  
Open up! Search Warrant!

 
Project84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kicking down doors in a neighborhood near you
Posts: 3,838
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by JamesBong
If you look at the ducting on the underside of the hood, it should work perty good for V-Mount.
Originally Posted by Bukwild
yes this hood will not work for vmount. It will work for your standard fmic setup
Ok, so one person says it will work, and the other says it will not work. You guys are talking about the same hood right?
Old 06-09-05, 05:26 PM
  #36  
Army Strong...or somethin

iTrader: (3)
 
Ricer240sx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 857
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
urg....i would rally like a v-mount set up, but i love the way the stock hood looks lol also....what about mounting the i/c behind the rad???? i see that done in FD's all the time, is that worth doing or not???
Old 06-09-05, 05:53 PM
  #37  
NorCal 7's Co-founder

 
BoostedRex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
That hood would work just fine for a V-mount setup. You would just have to check and make sure that the IC would clear the bottom of the hood. But the vents in that hood would be great for a V-mount.

Zach
Old 06-09-05, 06:47 PM
  #38  
Yes, that is my name.

 
JamesBong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Santa Cruz Mtns
Posts: 519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
urg....i would rally like a v-mount set up, but i love the way the stock hood looks lol also....what about mounting the i/c behind the rad???? i see that done in FD's all the time, is that worth doing or not???
The problem with mounting it behind the rad is that the rad ends up heating the IC, defeating it's purpose.
Old 06-09-05, 09:02 PM
  #39  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (5)
 
Johny zoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Va
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is my set up and I dont have any heating issues at all The higest temp I've seen was in a traffic jam in Orlando My was 98C. Ill have more information after next weekend I'm running the car at VIR . My normal temp is 88 to 92 C.
Attached Thumbnails Does anyone have pics of a vmount setup on a fc?-engine-pics.jpg   Does anyone have pics of a vmount setup on a fc?-dyno-pic.jpg  
Old 06-09-05, 09:07 PM
  #40  
Open up! Search Warrant!

 
Project84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kicking down doors in a neighborhood near you
Posts: 3,838
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
88-92 Celcius? Thats close to 200 farenheit. Are you sure that is right?
Old 06-09-05, 09:24 PM
  #41  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (5)
 
Johny zoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Va
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im sorry that is water temp not air temp Ill have more data after I track the car
Old 06-09-05, 10:01 PM
  #42  
Full Member

 
bigdongsr94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i think the hood would help pull air through, but it looks like it fits like crap- you can see the gaps from the pic
Old 06-09-05, 10:08 PM
  #43  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (7)
 
sub9lulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 2,739
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
v-mount is basically useless with the stock hood
the air is not going anywhere
Old 06-10-05, 01:59 AM
  #44  
Rotors still spinning

iTrader: (1)
 
rotarygod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,181
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by Ricer240sx
what about mounting the i/c behind the rad???? i see that done in FD's all the time, is that worth doing or not???
If you were to just mount the intercooler straight behind the radiator, you'd be getting airflow to it near 200 degrees at points. That wouldn't cool anything and would actually serve to heat it up under most conditions. That would be counter productive and no intercooler would probably be better. The 3rd gens did have the intercooler physically located behind (more appropriately above) the radiator but there was full ducting to allow air from the nose to cool it. It was not hot air flowing through the unit so is still did it's job. The fans off of the back of the radiator would still blow hot air onto the end tanks of the intercooler though and this would effect efficiency a little.
Old 06-10-05, 06:52 AM
  #45  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (5)
 
Johny zoom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Va
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I mounnted mine in FRONT of the radiator.
Old 06-10-05, 12:44 PM
  #46  
Ready to Rock

 
ultradef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Project84
Ok, so one person says it will work, and the other says it will not work. You guys are talking about the same hood right?
Yes, they're both talking about the same hood. Upon further investigation, I don't think that hood would be very effective for a v-mount. You want the hood vent to be in the path of the airflow coming out of your intercooler. The vent on the hood pictured above it too far back (over the engine). Ideally, you'd want the vent to be more forward (towards the front of the car) so that the air passing through the intercooler has a place to escape.
Old 06-10-05, 04:35 PM
  #47  
NorCal 7's Co-founder

 
BoostedRex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
The vent doesn't have to be directly above the IC core to make it work. With vents like those in the hood will creat the low pressure area underneath the hood. Thus pulling air through the IC and out of the vents.

And whoever mentioned the fitment was completely correct. That knock off hood fits terribly. It's worth the extra money to buy the real Knightsports hood from www.rotaryextreme.com Just my .02 though.

Zach
Old 06-10-05, 07:27 PM
  #48  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (7)
 
sub9lulu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 2,739
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by BoostedRex
The vent doesn't have to be directly above the IC core to make it work. With vents like those in the hood will creat the low pressure area underneath the hood. Thus pulling air through the IC and out of the vents.

And whoever mentioned the fitment was completely correct. That knock off hood fits terribly. It's worth the extra money to buy the real Knightsports hood from www.rotaryextreme.com Just my .02 though.

Zach
there was a forum member posted some pics with that hood it seems that it fits ok
how do you tel exactly it fits terrible ?
Old 06-10-05, 08:03 PM
  #49  
I break Diff mounts

iTrader: (1)
 
Digi7ech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Avondale, Arizona
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
FMIC benefit.
-You can put a hige one in and it is commonly for sale. Great place for air passage.
Downfall.
-Blocks the VITAL things like oil cooler and radiator. A guy here installed a FMIC on a stock turbo and blew the engine due to high oil temps.
-Also it is right in way of all those happy little rocks so it will get hammered.
-Lag generally increase due to long piping lengths.


TMIC Benefit:
It's a VERY short piping path so lag is very minimal
Downfall:
-HEATSOAK. Right on top of the engine so heat transfers readily

VMOUNT:
Benefit.
-Mix between TMIC and FMIC
-Shorter piping length means less lag
-Doesn't block radiator/oil cooler
-Protected from rocks
Downfall:
-It's ALL custom work
-Modding braces and structure and room are problems



If I had the $$$ I would go Vmount in a heartbeat over FMIC.
Old 06-10-05, 08:06 PM
  #50  
I break Diff mounts

iTrader: (1)
 
Digi7ech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Avondale, Arizona
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Also that hood 'Could' work for the Vmount but it will hinder the abilities.

I doubt it is close to where the Vmount woudl be placed so air after going through the Vmount woudl get tossed around before leaving.

Also.
It will just pull ari from the engine bay.
If it was made FOR the Vmount it woudl be much more efficient in pulling air out.

If I went Vmount I would just get a NA hood and hack it like one of the guys here did.



I think a small ramp/lip is needed to help make a vacuum zone at the exit point. Not sure though.


Quick Reply: Does anyone have pics of a vmount setup on a fc?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:56 PM.