TO4Z

do u know of anybody that carries it in the states i was japanese site but was getting know were.

vhold

With all the advantages of a v-mount, it's suprising nobody offers a kit.

If there was one, I would probably get it.
If I had the money anyway...

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

Pretty good break down, although the lag is not that substanial. You migth want to add that the V-mount will heat soak as well, and hte intake temperatures would be higher than a FMIC, but less than a TMIC. One of the main reasons why the FMIC gets a bad rap is because NO kit comes with proper ducting to the radiator, and the IC sits to far infront of the radiator, if it were closer coolant temps would lower greatly becasue the air will not slow down after going thru the IC.

I am actually in the process of building a kit for the FC, although still in the design phase I hope to have something more concrete soon.

vhold

Eyecandy,

That's cool, if you make one I might be a customer.

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

I will keep everyone posted, one thing I have to say is the FC3S is a PITA to try and fit a v-mount in, although the kit should be straight bolt in w/ very minor relocating of existing items.

unek87

dont hate i'm just asking . but would a intercooler for a evolution work cause i think the end tanks kinda point up words.

Mindspin311

Eye candy, I woudl be interested too, keep me informed

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

I believe they actually point down, it may work, since ICs are NOT driectional. Thats the one of the porblems with building your own kit if you do not have the knowledge or the tools to do so you have very limited choices. Everything needs to be custom made.

BoostedRex

Eyecandy, you said that V-mounts will have higher intake temps than a FMIC. That is not always true. With a proper vented hood and once you are moving then a V-mount will give you the same if not better intake temps than a FMIC. Pro race teams developed and use this IC setup instead of a FMIC for a reason. Not that you aren't very competent in what you do, but I just wanted to set that one fact straight.

Zach

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

The reason KnightSports orginiated it was because of the coolant temps, it yeilds better coolant temps. The VMIC will not have cooler intake temps becasue it is STILL under the hood, yes cooling will improve with a vented hood but its still in the engine bay, where as a FMIC is not and is seeing driect contact with the front of the nose.

TMIC:
-Coolest Coolant temps
-Hottest air temps

FMIC
-Hottest coolant temps
-Coolest air temps

The VMIC gives you the balance between coolest air temps and coolest coolant temps.

Most race teams or Shop Track cars still use FMIC to this day, and have improved cooling methods for the radiator.

BoostedRex

When I mentioned race teams using V-mounts, I was talking about teams like Apex'i drift FD and if I remember correctly RE's FD uses a V-mount as well. Also, tons of the D1 Sylvia's use V-mounts as well. Not that you don't have a valid point with the temp differences, but I wanted to point out the teams that trust this kind of setup.

Zach

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

I am not trying to knock Drifitng, but drifitng is VERY different from grip racing, and I am sure there reasons (cooling reasons) are differnent for using V-mounts on drift cars than it is on a grip car. Teh main reasons I can see is the cars a moving slower and revving higher than grip cars. RE uses a ressed fmic setup on their D1 car, if they have a v-mount then they must have just changed to it. RE also uses the same ressed fmic on all of there grip cars and no v-mounts.

Seriously for cars other than rotaries its a "bling-bling" factor. It was develeoped by a rotary tuner for a rotary car, which loves to dance with overheating. I am not saying that is is a waste, each company has there reasons and I am sure the #1 reason is to allow the engine to cool better NOT cool the intake charge better.

RexRyder

iTrader: (10)

Using a super modified N/A hood. It's not done yet

BoostedRex

Eyecandy, thanks for the correction on the RE IC setup. I wasn't sure if I remembered that one correctly or not. I hear what you are saying about other cars using V-mounts though.

Rex_ryder, Are you planning on putting a raised front lip on the opening of the hole? Also, are you going to slope down the back part of it? I know it's not finished, but just curious.

Zach

Bukwild

rex rider that would look so sweet if you had around 400 to the wheels you would clean up at the races. People would seriously bet you their title and more. Because in this industry people confuse show with race and if it doesn't have a HKS sticker on it then its slow. I know you have some cleaning up to do but I would leave it along those lines and steal some ricer money

vhold

Does the v-mount require a custom vented hood to work properly, or is it simply that it will get better air temps with one?

BoostedRex

To work "properly" yes a vented hood is needed. You can run a V-mount without it, but you are not using the full potential of the IC.

Zach

Roen

iTrader: (2)

is the common opinion that the KnightSports vented hood is sufficient for the Vmount, or are there better production hoods out there? Or is custom the way to go?

BoostedRex

There are surely better hoods out there then the Knightsports hood. But that hood would work. I would suggest just getting a hold of an N/A hood or two and seeing what you can do yourself.

Zach

RexRyder

iTrader: (10)

It's all done now, I'll try and get new pics. It does have a slope in the back. And I plan on having a lip all around it, when I learn how to fiberglass.

RexRyder

iTrader: (10)

Yea it would be sweet.

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

What hoods other than the KnightSports is available? I have been out of the loop alittle bit so pardon my ignorance.

BoostedRex

The RE Super G hood is still available and last I heard FEED has one made just for a V-mount setup.

Zach

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

FEED Does not make a FC hood, I think you you are thinking of the FD hood, and that is not designed for a V-mount. Besides FEED is strictly FMIC on all of their cars. I think R-Magic has/had a hood which may work for a v-mount; I know it woul dbe better than the RE SUper G hood.

aBieker

Hey guys... one of the members on this site is working on a couple of different vented hoods for the FC... don't know if he'll ever finish, but they are <a href="http://www.rx7pro.com/catalog.0.html1.0.html"> HERE </a>. His name on here is something like Dltreezan, but I'm tired and too lazy to look it up right now. Anyway... I too am interested in a v-mount setup, so if anyone has any more info on doing it (aside from Blue TII's conversion that I've been ogling for the last couple months), let me know.