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Old 06-14-06, 01:54 AM
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Discussion about my future setup...

In about a week I'll be making almost $35 an hour, working around 50+ hours a week doing road-construction. Pretty much, if I'm going to be buying parts for my Turbo II, it's going to be from money I accumulate in the summer.

My original plan was to buy:

BNR Stage III Turbo ~ Probably about $1000 after shipping
R-Tek 2.0 chip ~ $300 after shipping in my 1.7
Wideband O2 sensor and gauge ~ $300?
1600cc secondary injectors ~ $150?
E-Bay FMIC setup ~ $500?

On top of that, I would also like to upgrade my suspension to coilovers, which would be ~ $1000 or so

As well as upgrading to a lightweight flywheel and a heavy duty clutch, which would be around $500+

So with just that stuff, all of a sudden I'm looking at around $3750... Of course, that doesn't include the WY paint I've been wanting to do, the CS Mazdaspeed replica lip, or the new seats I want, or the new gauges etc...

When the work-season is over, I will have accumulated around $12,000 or so, but I can't really justify spending almost 1/3+ of my summer "income boost" on car parts--considering my car runs great, and looks good as it is... When I put it that way, it just seems short-sighted and foolish to blow my money like a little girl at the mall.

I know I'll at least have to be replacing my turbo with a better unit (since mine is making funny noises and reeks of oil after a WOT run), but other than that, does anyone have any suggestions? I at least want a *good* turbo and the coilovers, but aside from that, I'm open to direction.



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so looks like your aiming for about 350 hp? what size rubber you have on the back? Youll probably need around a 255 to hold the road under WOT.


ALSO, i have what seems to be a BNR upgraded turbo. Heres the link, its for sale.

https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/help-me-name-turbo-476397/

If interested youd have to wait till im back in the motherland, which is only 2 months...at most.

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Originally Posted by 88t2romad
so looks like your aiming for about 350 hp? what size rubber you have on the back? Youll probably need around a 255 to hold the road under WOT.


ALSO, i have what seems to be a BNR upgraded turbo. Heres the link, its for sale.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=476397

If interested youd have to wait till im back in the motherland, which is only 2 months...at most.
The tires are 225, but I plan on keeping them for a while, simply because they're in such good condition.

But yeah, I may be interested in your turbo--although two months might be a long time, the turbo, or "power" setup will *likely* be the last thing I do, unless I get convinced otherwise. So yeah, keep me posted on it's availability.
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i have a bnr stage 4 with about 1700 miles on it never boosted over 5psi and it has an aftermarket manifold never used still brand new not ever mounted that i think i am going to be selling that would be better than a stage 3
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I think you're going about this the wrong way.
Any customer I consult, I always ask...
1) How much power do you want?
If you can't answer that question, what cars do you want to beat?
Corvettes?
Vipers?
2) How much money you want to spend?

With those two questions answer, the path becomes trivial...
You want to pick the components that will get you to your goal with the least amount of money without sacraficing quality.

You sound really open-ended in your goals, and that usually means you end up wasting money trying to do uprgades.


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Originally Posted by eriksseven
I would also like to upgrade my suspension to coilovers, which would be ~ $1000 or so

As well as upgrading to a lightweight flywheel and a heavy duty clutch, which would be around $500+

Of course, that doesn't include the WY paint I've been wanting to do, the CS Mazdaspeed replica lip, or the new seats I want, or the new gauges etc...
Dude,

Treat your self to a nice S5 turbo or a hybrid like your old one......

Order some sick suspension....tein koni whatever

Toss in a lightened flywheel and a hard clutch


Then spray it white with a fresh new CS lip.

~Maybe a nice front mount setup if it is reasonable

Either way your seven will be getting some serious luv this summer
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Originally Posted by RETed
I think you're going about this the wrong way.
Any customer I consult, I always ask...
1) How much power do you want?
If you can't answer that question, what cars do you want to beat?
Corvettes?
Vipers?
2) How much money you want to spend?

With those two questions answer, the path becomes trivial...
You want to pick the components that will get you to your goal with the least amount of money without sacraficing quality.

You sound really open-ended in your goals, and that usually means you end up wasting money trying to do uprgades.


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Yeah, but here's the thing; I want 350whp, fresh white paint, new suspension etc., but I could live with 300whp, flat black paint and springs/struts.

For example, I get a smaller used hybrid for about half as much as a new BNR, forget the R-Tek 2.0 (keep my 1.7) and install a SAFC and maybe the wideband...

It's not really that big-a-deal, but if anyone wants to chime in with what they'd with about $2500, then feel free.
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Originally Posted by ecyrb | SLC
Dude,

Treat your self to a nice S5 turbo or a hybrid like your old one......

Order some sick suspension....tein koni whatever

Toss in a lightened flywheel and a hard clutch


Then spray it white with a fresh new CS lip.

~Maybe a nice front mount setup if it is reasonable

Either way your seven will be getting some serious luv this summer
Holy crap! You went nuts with the smilies.

Of course, what you've mentioned is the easy way to think about it--which will cause problems of the type RETed mentioned (wasted money etc.) simply because all of the "mods" you just mentioned don't 'run solo'.

Ok, a good S5 turbo could be had for $200, or a small hybrid for $400. But if I get this, then I've got to think about a new method of controlling/adding fuel--whether it be via an SAFC, the R-Tek 2.0, and/or upgrading to either bigger primaries or secondaries.

Then for the spring/strut combo (as opposed to coilovers) what do I do?

I really like the RSR* Race springs--which can be had for about $200, and of *course* I'd like to get the Tokico HP's, which are super cheap at about $260. But the problem with this setup is that the springs are so stiff--that I'd likely blow the struts within a year... Then if I go for some KYB AGX's or something, then I'm almost up to $600 for springs and struts... I could almost then justify getting some decent/cheap coilovers for around $850...

The flywheel and clutch are still up in the air. If I get the flywheel, It'd only make sense to throw in a beefier clutch while I'm in there. Also, if I'm upgrading the power output by 50+ HP, then I'd almost have to get a new clutch, although I guess I wouldn't until it started slipping...

And yeah, I'd love the lip, but the paint'd likely be the last thing I'd do, simply because the car already looks good.

Also, if I got a larger turbo I'd need the FMIC, and if I got the FMIC then I'd almost need a better radiator...
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I know I'll at least have to be replacing my turbo with a better unit (since mine is making funny noises and reeks of oil after a WOT run),
everytime i read your post's, they sound like more and more of what im thinkin of doing or in the process of doing or having problems with!...im going with a better FMIC and have a different turbo im installing soon (only good for another 15-20HP over stock)...
if i were you id stick with a nice turbo for your 350..maybe something a little bigger so that its not pushed HARD all the time and is capable of your HP goals? then get your fuel covered wether(SP?) it be the SAFC or 2.0 and get your FMIC..then i would hed toward the suspension... BUT, these are just my .2 cents...
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Originally Posted by 88rxn/a
everytime i read your post's, they sound like more and more of what im thinkin of doing or in the process of doing or having problems with!...im going with a better FMIC and have a different turbo im installing soon (only good for another 15-20HP over stock)...
if i were you id stick with a nice turbo for your 350..maybe something a little bigger so that its not pushed HARD all the time and is capable of your HP goals? then get your fuel covered wether(SP?) it be the SAFC or 2.0 and get your FMIC..then i would hed toward the suspension... BUT, these are just my .2 cents...
Are you running a stock radiator with your FMIC setup? If you have an aftermarket coolant temp. gauge, what numbers do you see?
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Small hybrid, upgrade secondaries, keep rtek 1.7, get wideband controller/display, koyo radiator off ebay, ebay FMIC/piping, tokico illuminas + ground control coilovers.

Painting is an option, I wouldn't do it now but it's a toss up, maybe later?

Take the rest of your money and save/invest it
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Your car looks very nice from what I can tell, So i'd go with what dDub suggested.

Open up an ING savings account!!

I need atleast 3k to finish building my T2....
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Small hybrid, upgrade secondaries, keep rtek 1.7, get wideband controller/display, koyo radiator off ebay, ebay FMIC/piping, tokico illuminas + ground control coilovers.

Painting is an option, I wouldn't do it now but it's a toss up, maybe later?

Take the rest of your money and save/invest it
Word...

Hybrid ~ $450
1000cc secondaries ~ $150
Wideband setup ~ $350
Koyo RAD. ~ $300?
Ebay FMIC ~ $400
Illuminas & GC's ~ $750 or so?

Total: $2400... I could probably pull that off. My only issue with the GC setup is I'd likely have to get camber plates for adjustment, and I could probably find a coilover setup with that built in, for around $1000... Hmm.

Either way, I'd say that $3k is definitely my maximum budget, although I'd like to keep it around $2k -- no biggie.
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I would suggest to start scouring the For Sale sections and eBay listings for some of those parts.

Stuff like the GC coilovers and rads can be had for good prices if you do your homework.
I would try to stick with brand new shocks if possible - KYB's are still under $400 shipped brand new from eBay sellers; no sense taking a chance on them if they are bad (when used).

Also, keep an eye out for used HKS cast manifolds and turbos...you might end up with a full turbo upgrade before you know it.


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Originally Posted by eriksseven
Are you running a stock radiator with your FMIC setup? If you have an aftermarket coolant temp. gauge, what numbers do you see?

stock rad.... i NEVER get overheated unless i REALLY beat on it on a steep incline for over 5 minutes...of course this is hard on any car....
But, ive never seen my temps rise in the hot days (90's) while im boosting for long periods of time...
and no guage for temp..

ill be getting a aftermarket rad soon enough!

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