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Old 12-05-04, 01:37 AM
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Differences between Turbo II and 10th AE

Alright, I would like to know the differences between the 10th AE and the TII. I know of the fender 10th AE badges, the white paint, the white rims, the bronze tinted windows, the black leather seats, the 10th AE logo on the floormats, and the black interior. If I remember right though, you could get the black interior in other models, and also you could get the leather interior with other models too. I'm pretty sure the changes are all cosmestic and not mechanical. Did the turbo II ever come with a black interior? Also, what could you get a black interior with leather? And how hard is it to find leather interior on a TII? I think that's about all the differences I know of. Thanks for the help!
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who cares! gut the interior!
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A lot of S5's had black interiors. No S4's had black interiors except for the 10th AE released in the states.

Black leather interiors are even more rare. But its mainly just the door panels and the seats.
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Headlight squirters, black interior with leather seats and door panels, Crystal White paint, fender badges, bronze tinted glass, AE badged floormat(only one side and I think it's the passenger side, but I could be wrong), paint matched wheels, Momo AE steering wheel, all one piece shift **** and boot, painted taillights........I think that's all, but I'm probably forgetting something.
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The VIN has to fall within a range...


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What are the headlight squirter things? I've never seen those. And what do you mean by S4 and S5? So what you're saying is, it would be easy to turn a TII into a 10th AE if you could find the parts because it's all cosmetic and not performance. The only thing that would be hard is getting the glass and that's about it. Maybe I could just buy a TII and turn it into a 10th AE. TII's are usually much cheaper anyways. I'd either do that, or get racing bucket seats and paint the interior myself to whatever color I wanted. But still, there's something about owning a 10th AE that makes it special. Idk if it would feel right turning a TII into an AE.
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You cannot turn a TII into an AE, the VIN will show that it's not a true AE.

The headlight squirters are simply that, headlight squirters.

S4=86-88 FC and S5=89-92 FC.
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I know I can't turn it exactly into a 10th AE, but I could make it look like one. What do the squirters do anyways? Are they supposed to clean the headlights or what? And thanks for the clear-up on the S4 and S5 thing.
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The 10Ae had a bigger turbo than the S5
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It did? Never heard that one. That means that the S4 should have the same turbo as the 10th AE then right?
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The differences are the cosmetic ones already mentioned.
As far as I can tell the car is mechanically identical to any other S4 Turbo.

And yes it seems that the AE's were the only S4's with a black interior. I am trying to get a replacement warning light surround for my AE, what a pain :-(

Some idiots broke into my mechanic's lot and took a weird assortment of items from the car - the stereo, warning light surround, ashtray, the spare tire, and the battery.
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Originally Posted by theone81
The 10Ae had a bigger turbo than the S5

WRONG all s4 turbos are the same. 10ae was exactly the same.
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yeah its the same turbo as all the S4. Its definetly not bigger than the S5.
They also had some kind of stock aero mirrors
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Originally Posted by theone81
The 10Ae had a bigger turbo than the S5
Bull ****!
All S4 Turbos Had twin Scroll turbos with a single WG hole
All S5 Turbos had a equal size devided tang with a double WG holes

amoung other diffences with the rotating assembly. thery were very similar.

Man is there ever ALOT OF MISINFORMATION flying arround the forum l8ly!
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They also had a motion detecting alarm.
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Originally Posted by jreynish
Bull ****!
All S4 Turbos Had twin Scroll turbos with a single WG hole
All S5 Turbos had a equal size devided tang with a double WG holes

amoung other diffences with the rotating assembly. thery were very similar.

Man is there ever ALOT OF MISINFORMATION flying arround the forum l8ly!
IF YOU DON'T KNOT FOR SURE DON'T POST IT!
atleast people correct them and make them feel like dumbasses right after they post "bullshit"
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Originally Posted by rotaryrudy
atleast people correct them and make them feel like dumbasses right after they post "bullshit"
Well, I don't know about you, But I make a concious effort to not post things that I know to be correct!
Also I would not want to be responsible for someone wrecking their engine or their budget because of some piece of information I told them was heresay and incorrect.
This usually wouldn't bother me soo much, but in the past little while the BS Misinformation spreading arround the forum is getting rediculous! I mean I don't even know where people are getting alot of this information. So by saying something you don't KNOW to be true you are just spreading the Bull ****.
And it needs to stop.
He was Corrected. and that statement was dirrected to anybody ne just him.
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wolf
What are the headlight squirter things? I've never seen those. And what do you mean by S4 and S5? So what you're saying is, it would be easy to turn a TII into a 10th AE if you could find the parts because it's all cosmetic and not performance. The only thing that would be hard is getting the glass and that's about it. Maybe I could just buy a TII and turn it into a 10th AE. TII's are usually much cheaper anyways. I'd either do that, or get racing bucket seats and paint the interior myself to whatever color I wanted. But still, there's something about owning a 10th AE that makes it special. Idk if it would feel right turning a TII into an AE.
Not so easy to duplicate an exact replica. There are also many differences in the S4/S5 black interior set. The wheels are powdercoated and slightly different than one other TII wheel set. The interior steering wheel center, Momo shift ****/boot and the floor mats are difficult to find.

As for the headlight washers, I'm going to turn mines around and squirt them at pedestrians I don't like!
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Supposively the 10Ae had an aluminum hood that was much lighter than the other TII's
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My red TII has black leather interior so I guess it was an option....
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I think all 10th AE's had aluminum hoods. Most of the other TII hoods are aluminum too. There are some steel ones out there though.
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Originally Posted by rotorheaven7
Supposively the 10Ae had an aluminum hood that was much lighter than the other TII's
Where are you people coming up with this garbage?
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So basically, if you want a 10th AE, you'd be doing a lot of searching for interior parts. I would love to get a 10th AE, but it's hard to find a decent one for a decent price. I guess if all else fails, I can just get a TII. I guess let's put it this way, if you had the parts that you needed to convert a TII to a 10th AE, it wouldn't be that hard to do, but finding the parts is another story. Can you still order interior parts for the 10th AE or don't they do that anymore? I'm guessing they would still have to make body panels and engine parts, but I doubt it about special parts like badges and interior pieces. Well, I guess I'll keep looking for a 10th AE until I get sick of it and buy a TII. Thanks for the help.
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Why spend so much on a TII converting it to 10th anniversary, when you can just get a S5 TII and smoke that 10th anniversary. I rather have that 15 more hp and the better tailights and better sidemoldings. But thats just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wolf
So basically, if you want a 10th AE, you'd be doing a lot of searching for interior parts. I would love to get a 10th AE, but it's hard to find a decent one for a decent price. I guess if all else fails, I can just get a TII. I guess let's put it this way, if you had the parts that you needed to convert a TII to a 10th AE, it wouldn't be that hard to do, but finding the parts is another story. Can you still order interior parts for the 10th AE or don't they do that anymore? I'm guessing they would still have to make body panels and engine parts, but I doubt it about special parts like badges and interior pieces. Well, I guess I'll keep looking for a 10th AE until I get sick of it and buy a TII. Thanks for the help.
Just look for a 10th AE. To me, its not "that" special. And I even own one! Converting a TII to a 10th AE when buying parts from the dealer is going to be rapage. Difficulty of locating parts too. How many threads do you see in the For Sale forum where someone is parting out a 10th AE? Happens only like twice a year.

I don't understand your fascination with the 10th AE. Its no different mechanically. If you want a white car with black interior so bad, just go with what Eternal_Gamer said and buy a S5 TII. Its nicer looking too IMHO.


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