Cusco vs. Corksport Strut bars
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is there REALLY any difference between like ANY different strut bars? (except maybe the solid ones... ?) I can't see how one piece of alluminum can be that much different than another...
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Well I wouldn't call the Corksport ones that. Maybe some of the $5 eBay ones, but the Corksport ones were modelled after the Cusco ones, and are plenty stiff.
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I have the CS front. The car understeers like a pig with it (old stock suspension), so try to get the front and rear
edit: i'll sell you mine if you want
edit: i'll sell you mine if you want
how would stiffening up the front would cause understeer?
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cuz thats how it works. just like stiffer springs in front increase understeer.
generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.
I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.
generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.
I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.
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unicorn_squad cuz thats how it works. just like stiffer springs in front increase understeer.
generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.
I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.
hes talkn about strut bars not springs i dont think a strut bar would cause a noticeable amount of either over or understeering but make it handle more consistant bcs frame flex and twist happensunder diffrent amounts of load and the frame doesnt move at the same rate for the amount of flex
generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.
I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.
hes talkn about strut bars not springs i dont think a strut bar would cause a noticeable amount of either over or understeering but make it handle more consistant bcs frame flex and twist happensunder diffrent amounts of load and the frame doesnt move at the same rate for the amount of flex
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hes talkn about strut bars not springs i dont think a strut bar would cause a noticeable amount of either over or understeering but make it handle more consistant bcs frame flex and twist happensunder diffrent amounts of load and the frame doesnt move at the same rate for the amount of flex
It certainly does make it understeer more. I have both corksport bars and I put them on one at a time to see just how the car would react. The front one will make steering response a shitload faster but also understeer more. Both certainly help balance the car out more but unless you get camber plates in the front then its gonna want to understeer no matter what. Unless you **** with the sway bars too.
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Originally Posted by mightymite
hes talkn about strut bars not springs i dont think a strut bar would cause a noticeable amount of either over or understeering but make it handle more consistant bcs frame flex and twist happensunder diffrent amounts of load and the frame doesnt move at the same rate for the amount of flex
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what im tryn to say is when the springs and shocks move faster then there limit the shocks will pack and its going to twist the frame more then it would with the shocks moving at a slower rate and with a sturt bar in place it will isolate the shocks from the frame making for a more consistant steering input
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if u want a flawless style frt bar go with the racing beat upper bar the solid bars give no flex while any that are bolted at the flange can and will give at the bolt.. but IMO the corksport and cusco seem fine..
I used ebay bars on my civic and they worked fabulous
I used ebay bars on my civic and they worked fabulous
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The eBay bars aren't less stiff because of inferior materials. ALL steels and ALL aluminums have the same stiffness, plus or miunus LESS than 5%. The differences will come in the designs. The Corksport bar is wider with good flanges on the strut top connectors. Most of the eBay bars are thin and have very little material at the flanges, which leads to increased amounts of flexing.
It's the design, not the material that makes one bar stiffer than another made with the same material.
It's the design, not the material that makes one bar stiffer than another made with the same material.
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i built my own strut braces, front and rear...
took some time, but they were 100% free
made them to fit perfect, and they work absolutely great! very noticeable difference!
made them out of steel, cause that was the only material at hand (translate: free for the taking). they are also strength adjustable using left and right threads
now at my new job i have access to a lot of aluminium, so im going to modify the rear and fabricate a complete new one for the front.
absolutely going triangular in the front!
front:
rear:
took some time, but they were 100% free
made them to fit perfect, and they work absolutely great! very noticeable difference!
made them out of steel, cause that was the only material at hand (translate: free for the taking). they are also strength adjustable using left and right threads
now at my new job i have access to a lot of aluminium, so im going to modify the rear and fabricate a complete new one for the front.
absolutely going triangular in the front!
front:
rear:
Last edited by Furb; 10-22-06 at 07:19 AM.