Cusco vs. Corksport Strut bars
 

Just wondering if there is a large quality/stiffness between the two brands products.

I've got the Corksport. Its made of aluminum and steel. Unless the Cusco is carbon or titanium then I doubt there's much difference. Don't pay for a name.

Chris

Ditto, the Corksport ones are very good quality.

I've heard the Corksport bars referred to as "flexi-flyers."

is there REALLY any difference between like ANY different strut bars? (except maybe the solid ones... ?) I can't see how one piece of alluminum can be that much different than another...

Well I wouldn't call the Corksport ones that. Maybe some of the $5 eBay ones, but the Corksport ones were modelled after the Cusco ones, and are plenty stiff.

well, i have the cusco bars.. front and rear, uppers and lower... and rear tri-bar.... they are excellent quality... never seen the coksport.. but they seem to make quality stuff... so its really up to you

i have the Corksport Front an rear with stock sus. and it works great.. :)

ive used egay bars, and worked fine.

I have the CS front. The car understeers like a pig with it (old stock suspension), so try to get the front and rear

edit: i'll sell you mine if you want

I have an ebay bar on my piece... don't see how it could work any better... they all fit the same way.

well, alot of ebay ones are made from inferior metal/aluminum.... the point of a strut bar is to stop flex and swaying of each strut tower under hard cornering... low quality bars will still flex... basically rendering them useless

how would stiffening up the front would cause understeer?

cuz thats how it works. just like stiffer springs in front increase understeer.

generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.

I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.

unicorn_squad cuz thats how it works. just like stiffer springs in front increase understeer.

generally, stiffer in front = more understeer. stiffer in back = more oversteer.

I still find it seriously hard to believe that just because one bar is made of slightly better alluminum its going to make a noticeable difference... is there any alluminum bar thats not still going to flex just a little bit?
I'd like to hear from someone who's actually used both and compared them.

hes talkn about strut bars not springs i dont think a strut bar would cause a noticeable amount of either over or understeering but make it handle more consistant bcs frame flex and twist happensunder diffrent amounts of load and the frame doesnt move at the same rate for the amount of flex

It certainly does make it understeer more. I have both corksport bars and I put them on one at a time to see just how the car would react. The front one will make steering response a shitload faster but also understeer more. Both certainly help balance the car out more but unless you get camber plates in the front then its gonna want to understeer no matter what. Unless you fuck with the sway bars too.

Chris

strut bars probably won't be as noticeable as spring rates, sway bars, or shock adjustment, but it still is going to make some difference in the same way those other things will...

what im tryn to say is when the springs and shocks move faster then there limit the shocks will pack and its going to twist the frame more then it would with the shocks moving at a slower rate and with a sturt bar in place it will isolate the shocks from the frame making for a more consistant steering input

right, noone's saying it won't do that, but it will also increase understeer for the same reasons stiffening anything else on the front of the car will.

if u want a flawless style frt bar go with the racing beat upper bar the solid bars give no flex while any that are bolted at the flange can and will give at the bolt.. but IMO the corksport and cusco seem fine..

I used ebay bars on my civic and they worked fabulous

The eBay bars aren't less stiff because of inferior materials. ALL steels and ALL aluminums have the same stiffness, plus or miunus LESS than 5%. The differences will come in the designs. The Corksport bar is wider with good flanges on the strut top connectors. Most of the eBay bars are thin and have very little material at the flanges, which leads to increased amounts of flexing.

It's the design, not the material that makes one bar stiffer than another made with the same material.

The only way to go is triangulated.

i built my own strut braces, front and rear...
took some time, but they were 100% free :D
made them to fit perfect, and they work absolutely great! very noticeable difference!

made them out of steel, cause that was the only material at hand (translate: free for the taking). they are also strength adjustable using left and right threads

now at my new job i have access to a lot of aluminium, so im going to modify the rear and fabricate a complete new one for the front.

absolutely going triangular in the front!

front:
http://partyaddict.xszone.net/furb/m...ontstrut_3.jpg
http://partyaddict.xszone.net/furb/m...ontstrut_8.jpg

rear:
http://partyaddict.xszone.net/furb/m...earstrut_5.jpg
http://partyaddict.xszone.net/furb/m...earstrut_7.jpg

Wow! real nice. Have you thought abt making more of them and selling them in the forum?