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Coilovers
what coilovers?
mostly street use
some track
and be suited for drifting but at the same time handle amazingly
thinking under 1k
like tien basics kinda
any ideas or input on coilovers you owned?
which ones would be best for pretty much all around
mostly street use
some track
and be suited for drifting but at the same time handle amazingly
thinking under 1k
like tien basics kinda
any ideas or input on coilovers you owned?
which ones would be best for pretty much all around
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No amount of expensive coilovers are going to make you handle "awesome" until you've sorted out the chassis first... (meaning replace the 20 year-old rubber bushings, engine/diff/tranny mounts, install braces all over the place, etc)
Not to mention that wheels and tires are WAAAY above coilovers in terms of handling upgrades.
Not to mention that wheels and tires are WAAAY above coilovers in terms of handling upgrades.
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No amount of expensive coilovers are going to make you handle "awesome" until you've sorted out the chassis first... (meaning replace the 20 year-old rubber bushings, engine/diff/tranny mounts, install braces all over the place, etc)
Not to mention that wheels and tires are WAAAY above coilovers in terms of handling upgrades.
Not to mention that wheels and tires are WAAAY above coilovers in terms of handling upgrades.
Without being able to dial camber into the front of the car (read coilovers) the stickiest tires in the world won't help you much.
Yes tires are the most important aspect of grip (in the general sense) but if you have no front camber you only have an inch wide contact patch anyway, and half of that will be sidewall.
For any respectable handling at all coilovers are a must for the FC chassis.
Been there, done that. My car with coilovers isnt even the same car than it was when i had RB springs and KYB AGX shocks in the stock configuration.
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If your looking for a good set of coilovers at a decent price I'd look in to getting Stance coilovers. I have them on my fc and they are really nice, great dampening too. Id say they would probably be my top choice for anything under $2k. And as everyone else said be sure to replace all the stock bushings, and if you want really good handling you might want to look into the different chassis bracing options that are out there but for a street car coilovers should be plenty.
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Not true on the FC.
Without being able to dial camber into the front of the car (read coilovers) the stickiest tires in the world won't help you much.
Yes tires are the most important aspect of grip (in the general sense) but if you have no front camber you only have an inch wide contact patch anyway, and half of that will be sidewall.
For any respectable handling at all coilovers are a must for the FC chassis.
Been there, done that. My car with coilovers isnt even the same car than it was when i had RB springs and KYB AGX shocks in the stock configuration.
Without being able to dial camber into the front of the car (read coilovers) the stickiest tires in the world won't help you much.
Yes tires are the most important aspect of grip (in the general sense) but if you have no front camber you only have an inch wide contact patch anyway, and half of that will be sidewall.
For any respectable handling at all coilovers are a must for the FC chassis.
Been there, done that. My car with coilovers isnt even the same car than it was when i had RB springs and KYB AGX shocks in the stock configuration.
I would agree that coilovers will give a big boost (mainly because they have spring rates that are 2-3 times as stiff as normal performance springs), but you're never going to notice the difference between 1200-dollar coilovers and 3000-dollar coilovers unless you have a hell of a chassis, tires, and wheels to go with it.
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If your looking for a good set of coilovers at a decent price I'd look in to getting Stance coilovers. I have them on my fc and they are really nice, great dampening too. Id say they would probably be my top choice for anything under $2k. And as everyone else said be sure to replace all the stock bushings, and if you want really good handling you might want to look into the different chassis bracing options that are out there but for a street car coilovers should be plenty.
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I would agree that coilovers will give a big boost (mainly because they have spring rates that are 2-3 times as stiff as normal performance springs), but you're never going to notice the difference between 1200-dollar coilovers and 3000-dollar coilovers unless you have a hell of a chassis, tires, and wheels to go with it.
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I AM a dick. The cheaper, more popular option is not always the best. I've felt Stance on other cars and it feels okay, not first rate, but decent for the price. Put it on a Miata, FC, FD, and it feels like ****. Way too bouncy, rebound is ******' weird. Don't buy Stance.
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But if you haven't felt them on an FC - how can you say that? What's out there in sub $1500 range for coilovers for an FC?
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Re-read what I said. Then continue at the bottom. I have been fortunate enough to work with guys that have friends at a local speed shop. The shop, Mach III, pushes stance on everyone and everything and even tried to get me to buy some for daily driver civic . So having seen all of their cars in action, and knowing a rather dumb group of local Mazda owners, I say after driving the Miata and FC, and riding in the FD stay the **** away from stance. My opinion, don't take it as FACT, but I will buy stance the day I buy another Porsche. /rant.
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I'm debating between the Tein's SuperDrift or Type Flex personally. Just trying to debate if I want the stiffer spring rates right off the bat, or get the easy spring rates from the Flex and upgrade them later. I'll probably end up with the SuperDrift since it's only 30 dollars more and almost twice the spring rate.
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Stance on the FC feels good dialed in correctly in a built chassy, putting in stance on a unpreped 20 year old car is sloppy and feels like crap..its deffinatly not a plug and play sort of deal.
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Stiffer does not equal better.
I've got Flex's (replaced the front springs with 7kg/mm though) and am quite happy with them. I've seen the shock dynos, which are nice, so they've got good damping, I've read the reports of guys with 10's of thousands of miles on them, so they're durable, and they're servicable and re-valvable in the US, which is good. For a lower end coilover they're really good, excellent bang for the buck.
I've got Flex's (replaced the front springs with 7kg/mm though) and am quite happy with them. I've seen the shock dynos, which are nice, so they've got good damping, I've read the reports of guys with 10's of thousands of miles on them, so they're durable, and they're servicable and re-valvable in the US, which is good. For a lower end coilover they're really good, excellent bang for the buck.
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http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
koni yellows, gc sleeves, select ur own springs
will yield you a much better shock than most jdm integrated coilover sets
stance? not sure. good reviews, but see if u can't find a shock dyno.
tein flex. seem to be good as well.
few to non forum-goers know even the slightest thing about shock tuning... alot of what people say is good is actually crap. why? they are going by a butt dyno instead of a shock dyno. read up before you make a decision
koni yellows, gc sleeves, select ur own springs
will yield you a much better shock than most jdm integrated coilover sets
stance? not sure. good reviews, but see if u can't find a shock dyno.
tein flex. seem to be good as well.
few to non forum-goers know even the slightest thing about shock tuning... alot of what people say is good is actually crap. why? they are going by a butt dyno instead of a shock dyno. read up before you make a decision
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Stiffer does not equal better.
I've got Flex's (replaced the front springs with 7kg/mm though) and am quite happy with them. I've seen the shock dynos, which are nice, so they've got good damping, I've read the reports of guys with 10's of thousands of miles on them, so they're durable, and they're servicable and re-valvable in the US, which is good. For a lower end coilover they're really good, excellent bang for the buck.
I've got Flex's (replaced the front springs with 7kg/mm though) and am quite happy with them. I've seen the shock dynos, which are nice, so they've got good damping, I've read the reports of guys with 10's of thousands of miles on them, so they're durable, and they're servicable and re-valvable in the US, which is good. For a lower end coilover they're really good, excellent bang for the buck.
7kg/mm translates to:391.981902 pounds / in
So maybe SuperDrifts better for out of the box?
Type Flex
Super Drift
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http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
koni yellows, gc sleeves, select ur own springs
will yield you a much better shock than most jdm integrated coilover sets
stance? not sure. good reviews, but see if u can't find a shock dyno.
tein flex. seem to be good as well.
few to non forum-goers know even the slightest thing about shock tuning... alot of what people say is good is actually crap. why? they are going by a butt dyno instead of a shock dyno. read up before you make a decision
koni yellows, gc sleeves, select ur own springs
will yield you a much better shock than most jdm integrated coilover sets
stance? not sure. good reviews, but see if u can't find a shock dyno.
tein flex. seem to be good as well.
few to non forum-goers know even the slightest thing about shock tuning... alot of what people say is good is actually crap. why? they are going by a butt dyno instead of a shock dyno. read up before you make a decision