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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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i have historic tags on my jeep, they do nothing for me except expire every year instead of every other year
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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looked it up on the dmv website, and after 25 years in VA, i dont need to worry about emissions. I dont even need to buy classic plates!!!
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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In IN, we don't have emission testing (except in 2 counties). So no catalytic converters for me! I'd take the emissions stuff off my car, but I don't know what to remove, what to block off, etc.

More on topic though, in Indiana a car must be 25yrs old to be eligible for an antique/historic license plate.

While looking for that info, I discovered that you can use a "Year of Manufacture" plate. I'm a bit confused about the details, but apparently you can register a plate issued the same year as the car. So I could get a '91 license plate. I guess I could just go to a junkyard or something, find a '91 plate and get it registered.

link:http://www.in.gov/bmv/3637.htm
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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In minnesota it's 20 years. Then you can get rid of the front plate. Get a "collector" rear plate, it is exempt from any emissions laws, and the plates never expire (unless you sell it).

I'm only two years away!
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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wow you guys have plates that expire??? here in pa you can have the same tag forever..it never expires you just get a small regestration sticker every year to stick on the plate
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 13bturbofc
wow you guys have plates that expire??? here in pa you can have the same tag forever..it never expires you just get a small regestration sticker every year to stick on the plate
That's not quite true... Pennsylvania "retires" old plate designs every 15 years or so. I got my first PA plate in 1988 and it moved from my GLC to my first RX-7 where it stayed until 2000 or 2001, I forget which. That year, PA switched from the navy blue with gold lettering to the yellow, white and blue plate with blue lettering. They sent me a new plate and instructed me to remove the old ones because they were expiring. I'm pretty sure they did this on a rolling basis for all cars in PA over about a 12 month period if memory serves.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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you can keep the plates unless they change the design, but of course you need a registration sticker that expires every year or every other year.

so if they had the same plate design for 30 years you could have 30 year old plates

our reggie stickers go in the window, nothing on the plate.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Here in Wisconsin, you can get a Collector or Hobbyist plate for any vehicle over 20 years old, as long as you have another non-collector/hobbyist vehicle currently registered in your name. I put Hobbyist plates on my Vert last year. It is a one time registration fee of $200 with no annual stickers needed. Plus the police tend to be more lenient with louder exhausts on a car legally registered as a "Hot Rod"



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and it doesnt really matter anyway because how many TII's are there out there with the original engine? odometer reading on these cars don't mean **** when you try to sell it if it doesn't have the original motor in it...OMG its a felony!!! i don't know officer my gauge clusters keep going out on me and im forced to swap in used ones from the junk yard, i think i have a short in my wiring..damn mazda's
I'm not trying to start a debate, but you realize the odometer tracks chassis mileage, not motor mileage. Who cares about engine mileage? (Unless you are buying an all-original, numbers-matching car for collecting that is). A motor that has proper compression and no fluid leaks is all I would care about. The actual mileage on the chassis is what the odometer reflects. It tells how many miles this car has been out on the road and in the weather elements.

I'm also fairly positive that if your "gauge cluster went out" as you plan to tell the cops, that your insurance company would expect you to call and report that change to them immediately. As well as we all have thought this trickery through, there is just no fool-proof way of tricking the insurance company, and fraud certainly isn't something I would want on my record
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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In North Carolina, you're not required to report odometer readings on cars over 15 years old when buying or selling. The insurance company I have (USAA) also doesn't seem to give a hoot on the older cars.

That's why I always run a Carfax before I buy a car. When you get your safety inspection every year, they have to record the mileage. Carfax then gets that info. It's pretty easy to determine which cars have had "gauge cluster problems" in the past.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nitronatefc
Here in Wisconsin, you can get a Collector or Hobbyist plate for any vehicle over 20 years old, as long as you have another non-collector/hobbyist vehicle currently registered in your name. I put Hobbyist plates on my Vert last year. It is a one time registration fee of $200 with no annual stickers needed. Plus the police tend to be more lenient with louder exhausts on a car legally registered as a "Hot Rod"





I'm not trying to start a debate, but you realize the odometer tracks chassis mileage, not motor mileage. Who cares about engine mileage? (Unless you are buying an all-original, numbers-matching car for collecting that is). A motor that has proper compression and no fluid leaks is all I would care about. The actual mileage on the chassis is what the odometer reflects. It tells how many miles this car has been out on the road and in the weather elements.

I'm also fairly positive that if your "gauge cluster went out" as you plan to tell the cops, that your insurance company would expect you to call and report that change to them immediately. As well as we all have thought this trickery through, there is just no fool-proof way of tricking the insurance company, and fraud certainly isn't something I would want on my record
why would the insurance company ever even need to look at my milage? i dont know where you guys live but i live in the middle of nowhere and where i am cops would not give a **** about an odometer, ive driven on expired inspection for 4 years and never got in trouble so...
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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I care about mileage, I would rather buy a 30k mile car with a blown engine then a 250k mile car with a good engine or even a rebuilt engine.
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 13bturbofc
why would the insurance company ever even need to look at my milage? i dont know where you guys live but i live in the middle of nowhere and where i am cops would not give a **** about an odometer, ive driven on expired inspection for 4 years and never got in trouble so...

To get super cheap insurance on your collector vehicle, there is going to be a mileage restriction. This is the first year I will be insuring my vert as a collector car. I'm still shopping, but the best quote I got so far was through Western National. My quote was to insure my vert for a $4000 value with a $500 deductible. 1 year of full coverage premiums will only be $180, but the car can only be driven up to 2500 miles. There is another option for $360 annual that allows up to 5000 miles. Call me crazy, but I think they may check the odometer...
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Don't be scared to break the law, you might actually find out that a lot of laws are Bull Sh@t!

Personally, I could care less about mileage. If it looks great in, out, under the hood, and internally(from what I can see) and runs great its good for me.

Ok, so I'll sell you my 20 year old car with a rolled back odometer and you'll buy it.

I read on a forum that you broke the law, now your getting arrested... puh leeeze! Oops I meant, Poh Leeeze!
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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lol yeah really.. when your buying a 20 year old car mileage means nothing..you guys know that older cars don't even have the digit for when the mileage rolls over 99k miles...so what do you do then? do you think someone buying an old muscle car cares about mileage if the cars been restored? my car has been completely restored so anyone who knows anything would know what they are buying whether the odometer says 10k or 300k what does it matter?...but as i stated before my car will never be sold. This E argument is over..its lame
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 13bturbofc
here in PA if you drive less then 5k miles in a year you can get an emissions exempt sticker which means you don't need any emissions equipment on the car..that's what i have..and i drive much more then 5k in a year but that's why you keep an extra gauge cluster around, drive on that cluster for 1-4k miles then swap it to the extra one, then come inspection time you swap back in the original one and your golden..
smartest dam thing i ever did heard.
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