Civic B18, exh, intake, turbo,+ a litttle more...vs turbo RX= winner????
04-23-05, 03:13 AM
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First off he shoulda swaped a H22 If not a B16. The amount of money he spent makes me think he realy aint got to much go. Now what ******* turbos are you 2 running and exsact mods cant do squat without knowing that. How much HP you making. I am going to say you will need to be making around 320 to beat him. Hell I have 2 friends with 350 wheel HP civic hatches and several with 250. The last hatch I talked to had 375 wheel Hp and he had 75K$ into the motor alone thats what it takes. So for a few K your friend spend I dont think so.
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04-23-05, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wtfdidusay82
i dont like civics much, true hondas redline high and all but there way too played out, i dont want a car that 1000 other people i know own it just isnt fun , sure we all own rx7s but how many people own rx7s ?
my car is streetported (mild), lightflywheel, dual friction clutch, mods to come are exhaust and safc, also plan to turbo it with 5-7 psi
hopefully with the turbo i should be right next to the turboed b16's and b18s/h22's , i really dont like honda much they are just soo played out seriously how many riced out civics do u see ? sure there are some really fast ones but thats after they put like 10,000 into the engine
my car is streetported (mild), lightflywheel, dual friction clutch, mods to come are exhaust and safc, also plan to turbo it with 5-7 psi
hopefully with the turbo i should be right next to the turboed b16's and b18s/h22's , i really dont like honda much they are just soo played out seriously how many riced out civics do u see ? sure there are some really fast ones but thats after they put like 10,000 into the engine
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=turbo+honda
Then:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=turbo+honda
On a single cam 1.6
04-23-05, 07:24 AM
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A lot of misinformation on this forum about how much it takes to get a civic hatch quick. You guys also need to realize it only takes close to 200whp to get a civic hatch into the 12's. Trust me, it doesn't take much money to do it.
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
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04-23-05, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pat McGroin
A lot of misinformation on this forum about how much it takes to get a civic hatch quick. You guys also need to realize it only takes close to 200whp to get a civic hatch into the 12's. Trust me, it doesn't take much money to do it.
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
yeah but how long you think the car will last ? i had a honda before and i busted the axle hubs/teeth burning out and it was completely stock, the parts they put on the hondas are by no means made for performance...if you want a lot of hp plan busting ****
axles , cv joints, clutch etc.... this stuff is all pretty weak on a civic...its made to handle stock hp which is the max of 160hp on the si...but most ppl dont have the si ... the ex model is like 125 hp or something like that and thats jack
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04-23-05, 11:01 AM
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if your running a stock NA 7 you will lose to that civic, but yeah honda's are played out. Although there are too many of them, speaking from a unbiased perspective both cars have their pros and cons , but hell i'd take a 7 over a fixed up civic any day
04-23-05, 11:28 AM
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I hate the huge BS with
OH **** IT'S VTECH!
You'll get wasted once VTECH hits!
It's variable valve timing bitches. EVERY major car manufacturer has it in some form.
****. The NA FC has it. It's called 5/6th ports!
I admit The hatchbacks can be ******* quick(buddy ran 12.7's consistent on 100-150 shot)
It's still like an SRT 4 though.
No handling but quick in the 1/4.
A good daily driver. That's it. :P
OH **** IT'S VTECH!
You'll get wasted once VTECH hits!
It's variable valve timing bitches. EVERY major car manufacturer has it in some form.
****. The NA FC has it. It's called 5/6th ports!
I admit The hatchbacks can be ******* quick(buddy ran 12.7's consistent on 100-150 shot)
It's still like an SRT 4 though.
No handling but quick in the 1/4.
A good daily driver. That's it. :P
04-23-05, 12:28 PM
#35
Originally Posted by Pat McGroin
A lot of misinformation on this forum about how much it takes to get a civic hatch quick. You guys also need to realize it only takes close to 200whp to get a civic hatch into the 12's. Trust me, it doesn't take much money to do it.
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
04-23-05, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat McGroin
A lot of misinformation on this forum about how much it takes to get a civic hatch quick. You guys also need to realize it only takes close to 200whp to get a civic hatch into the 12's. Trust me, it doesn't take much money to do it.
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
I currently have a 1990 GTU (project), and a 92 civic CX with an h22a motor with only intake headers and exhaust, I am trapping 103mph, NA. You can say it's a civic all you want and that it's not a sports car or whatever, but take a ride in my car, and you'll say that bitch is FUN!
With the b-series motors, they can easily handle 300whp on a good tune and stock internals, and a lot of people who know what they're doing, are spending 1500-3000 on turbo kits.
For the people spouting off that civic owners are spending 75k for 500whp, you're either bullshitting, or the owner does'nt have one single clue as to what the hell they're doing.
Every type of car has its fair amount of ricers, who cares, I ignore those people and only pay attention to the other enthusiasts who JUST like cars. The elitist attitude is the reason the import scene sucks.
PS- Those single cam d-series motors are sick when boosted, and for VERY cheap, just on 10 psi they can make well over 205whp. Now imagine that in a 2100 pound car!?!?!?!?!?
04-23-05, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Digi7ech
I hate the huge BS with
OH **** IT'S VTECH!
You'll get wasted once VTECH hits!
It's variable valve timing bitches. EVERY major car manufacturer has it in some form.
****. The NA FC has it. It's called 5/6th ports!
I admit The hatchbacks can be ******* quick(buddy ran 12.7's consistent on 100-150 shot)
It's still like an SRT 4 though.
No handling but quick in the 1/4.
A good daily driver. That's it. :P
OH **** IT'S VTECH!
You'll get wasted once VTECH hits!
It's variable valve timing bitches. EVERY major car manufacturer has it in some form.
****. The NA FC has it. It's called 5/6th ports!
I admit The hatchbacks can be ******* quick(buddy ran 12.7's consistent on 100-150 shot)
It's still like an SRT 4 though.
No handling but quick in the 1/4.
A good daily driver. That's it. :P
you talking about cordless phones or v-tec?
04-23-05, 08:42 PM
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yeah the rich kids here in Bethesda MD have turbo civic swaps and they will put a hurten on a NA in a light to light race. Kids need to realize that your rotary is not a drag racer. Its better to race him thru a backroad that has alot of turns but this of course is very dangerous. Its best to try him in a light to light race and hope he misses a shift and don't give him a rematch
04-23-05, 09:07 PM
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heres something u should try, race with ur window down, wait til he shifts, once he shifts u shift right after him, his redline will be around 8-9k unless he is using a different tranny, but if he is using the GSR tranny im supposing thats the b18 he has than take my advice and take ur car as far as it can go for redline safely and shift after he shifts
04-23-05, 09:53 PM
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He will win, end of story. Unless you get some huge turbo your screwed. This being the owner of a CRX SI and an R-X7. My CRX si would be consistently beaten by my friends TII, both stock. But if he has a Frickin Turbo B-18 from the gsr, believe me it will kill you. Just hope he misses a shift, sprays his Nos he probably has and blows his engine.
04-23-05, 10:20 PM
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the honda engines go 8-9k rpms? what the b18 turbo stuff or whatever? how in the world do you do a junk yard turbo on a car that revs that high? would that be off the compression thingy chart? and 5/6th ports are most definantly not variating in valve timing without any valve to do so with....although the same effect is achieved. and yes, any honda ive driven or ridden in i couldn't even feel the v-tec kick in, even in the supercharged 352 hp s2000 that i rode in, even though that was very fast.
04-23-05, 10:48 PM
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tell him he should use the car properly and go get mom some groceries.....they were meant for that duty....with that said..ur 7 should probably be in the garage waiting for its rebuild.......
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Put 3G in a Civiv and 3G in a TII, the TII will be faster. 
In my 2600LB Turbo II, I put the hurt on Turboed GSRs pretty good with mostly bolt-ons, tuning, and an impeccable ability to launch a TII very hard..
In my 2600LB Turbo II, I put the hurt on Turboed GSRs pretty good with mostly bolt-ons, tuning, and an impeccable ability to launch a TII very hard..
04-24-05, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by theman4444
My CRX si would be consistently beaten by my friends TII, both stock.
Have to raise the BS flag on that one. Stock for stock, if they are in good running order, a TII will demolish a crx si.
This is all based on riding in both cars.
No offense intended.
This thread should be either moved or closed IMO
-Justin
04-24-05, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by theman4444
My CRX si would be consistently beaten by my friends TII, both stock.
Originally Posted by Mx6-Rx7 Addict
Have to raise the BS flag on that one. Stock for stock, if they are in good running order, a TII will demolish a crx si.
This is all based on riding in both cars.
No offense intended.
This thread should be either moved or closed IMO
-Justin
This is all based on riding in both cars.
No offense intended.
This thread should be either moved or closed IMO
-Justin
04-24-05, 10:19 AM
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This thread (which really should have never been here in the 2nd gen technical section in the first place, is done. It just has become a BS boosting thread.
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