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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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i need carbon pieces for the FC......pieces like fenders, quarter panels, doors,,,etc,etc,,,
im planning to carbon my whole body for advertisement purposes for my shop...
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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It comes in self adhesive film that goes on like decals.
Wallpaper that bitch!
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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^pretty much the only way to do the whole car^

unless you were goign to make these parts yourself you will have trouble finding carbon fiber on anything besides a hood, sunroof, and wing on these cars...

there are also techniques to painting a carbon fibre effect that I have experimented with on bodies of flames before as well....
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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"^pretty much the only way to do the whole car^"


wrong anyone that works with CF can do a over lay. I am not a real fan of overlays but it seems to be the in thing right now.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Mazdaspeed Motorsports has doors and fenders I think. You have to participate in real sanctioned races to be a member though.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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yall probably seen this already..

https://www.rx7club.com/shineautoproject-161/fc3s-aero-parts-part-i-494587/
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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i remember someone was making FD doors totaly CF for ~3k per door IIRC search around, or find a shop near you.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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the thing is i dun wanna make it look like a ricer .... im doing this for ad purposes......
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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that's going to be very pricy, I know cuz I do CF work
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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i wouldnt mind seeing more CF and HyrbridFRP parts for our cars, but well all would and we're all penny-pinching FC owners, i know i could benefit from some lighter doors though.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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the thing is...money is NOT a prob....!
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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I do hoods, sunroof panels, misc interior and exterior. I'm trying to do fenders and doorskins. I don't have anything right know cause I simply can't get any CF from any local suppliers.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Then I would suggest finding some place and pay them a commission to take the car, make molds and make you you're own one off set of CF body panels. I doubt you'll be able to get the rear quarter panels that go over the roof, made in CF though.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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yeah, having to do the rear and top is going to take alot of CF, the best bet would be just to laminate the CF on to the actual body.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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yeah, having to do the rear and top is going to take alot of CF, the best bet would be just to laminate the CF on to the actual body.
yah, that would be the best way without going totaly broke
you should laminate the engine bay too. that would look cool
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Laminating CF onto body panels would completely defeat to purpose of using carbon fiber. As it is using it for body parts isn't really the smart way to use the stuff either. Hybrids of aramid and carbon are the way to go. If you use body panels to make molds, your parts wont be the right size. Especially for bigger pieces.

On a side note Boeing just gave my school easily over 10k in dry carbon and prepreg they cant use anymore. Its sweet. I love being in College.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tonybcrazy
Laminating CF onto body panels would completely defeat to purpose of using carbon fiber. As it is using it for body parts isn't really the smart way to use the stuff either. Hybrids of aramid and carbon are the way to go. If you use body panels to make molds, your parts wont be the right size. Especially for bigger pieces.

On a side note Boeing just gave my school easily over 10k in dry carbon and prepreg they cant use anymore. Its sweet. I love being in College.
this car is said to be for advertising only, not running on a track. doing that would take about 1 million man hours not to mention how much CF. I don't know what molds you've been using, but the larger the piece, the more accurate it is. And using a part to make a mold is how it's done, unless you're ford motors and use a 10 ton piece of billet aluminum just to make a injection mold.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tonybcrazy
Laminating CF onto body panels would completely defeat to purpose of using carbon fiber. As it is using it for body parts isn't really the smart way to use the stuff either. Hybrids of aramid and carbon are the way to go. If you use body panels to make molds, your parts wont be the right size. Especially for bigger pieces.

On a side note Boeing just gave my school easily over 10k in dry carbon and prepreg they cant use anymore. Its sweet. I love being in College.
i dont even want to know how much it would cost to make the uni-body out of CF
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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If its for advertising only then he should just use the vinyl CF look alike stuff.

And dont parts shrink based on a percentage? So like a 1 inch part will shrink .050 and a 10 inch part will shrink .5 inches? I am still learning about this stuff I am takin a composites class right now but its more focused on the aerospace side of the industry. And using a part to make a mold isn't the only way its down there are tons of diffierent ways to produce tooling. 10 Ton piece of aluminum for an injection mold? What plastic part does ford make that needs such a large mold? And what does injection molding have to do with this anyways? Are you thinking about using monolithic graphite for FRP molds?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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I think you're thinking of silicone or plaster, anything waterbased will shrink as the water evaporates, resin however doesn't shrink as much. ford uses that just to make 1 front bumper injection mold, 1 for the rear and 2 17 ton blocks for each fender
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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seriously i dont want customers to look at the car and think that the whole shop does "fake" look alike things......so i want legit stuff...
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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didnt AMUSE make a completly CF Skyline GTR I think I saw it somewhere.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ViciouS_27
the thing is...money is NOT a prob....!

I am calling your bullshit. Ship the car to us at Formula7Racing along with 7k USD and consider in done in 4 weeks.

And let me get this straight. You want a complete body CF overlay on a NA with a stock body kit?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ViciouS_27
seriously i dont want customers to look at the car and think that the whole shop does "fake" look alike things......so i want legit stuff...
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...43#post5280843
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...59#post5250059
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...53#post5238853
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...19#post5222919
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...96#post5214396
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...59#post5212759
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...11#post5201111
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...99#post5199699
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499464
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...16#post5191616
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...41#post5189041
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=499234
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497406
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=496107
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...67#post4809867
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461592
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...87#post4702087
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441299
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434203
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401281

I'm sorry, did you say that you're opening up a shop in the Toronto area? To work on RX-7s?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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