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Old 05-06-23, 06:23 AM
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Can't shift into any gear

I was driving my fc home from work all normal when I pull up to a stop sign, go to put my car in neutral and have to really force it into neutral, then try to put my car back into first and start driving and nothing, won't go into any gear grinds like a mf trying to put it in reverse. Anyways I did some research and figured my clutch hydraulics went bad so I replaced my clutch master and slave cylinder but still nothing, I bled the clutch, theres no air bubbles coming out, the clutch fork moves. Im so lost. It was working perfectly fine yesterday and there was no signs the clutch was going bad. Any help would be really appreciated
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Sometimes the bushings in the shift lever break making it nearly impossible to shift. As a first step, I would recommend inspecting and/or replacing these bushings. If it's not the bushings, than it's likely something in the transmission. Here's a link on how to access the bushings: https://mazdatrix.com/86-92-shifter-bushings/
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welcome to the board.

if it wasn't the hydraulics, then my next suspect would be the pilot bearing.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Dog
Sometimes the bushings in the shift lever break making it nearly impossible to shift. As a first step, I would recommend inspecting and/or replacing these bushings. If it's not the bushings, than it's likely something in the transmission. Here's a link on how to access the bushings: https://mazdatrix.com/86-92-shifter-bushings/
my shifter is definitely sloppy but would that cause it to make a grinding noise when I’m trying to shift? I can shift into every gear with the car off it’s just when the car is running I can’t get into any gears
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As you see the fork moving, remove the flywheel inspection plate to make certain the fork isn't fractured
and is moving the bearing properly.
Measure the distance from firewall to perpendicular line from pedal center, 7.2" to 7.6" and make certain
free play, 1/2" max.
As above, pilot bearing gone.
Check fluid level.

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Originally Posted by Talixans
I can shift into every gear with the car off it’s just when the car is running I can’t get into any gears
You didn't say that earlier. Always provide the details. That's a good sign. Like the others have mentioned, I would next check your pilot bearing.
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How many miles on the clutch setup?
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Originally Posted by DR_Knight
How many miles on the clutch setup?
170k original clutch lol
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
As you see the fork moving, remove the flywheel inspection plate to make certain the fork isn't fractured
and is moving the bearing properly.
Measure the distance from firewall to perpendicular line from pedal center, 7.2" to 7.6" and make certain
free play, 1/2" max.
As above, pilot bearing gone.
Check fluid level.
im just thinking of replacing the clutch and all the bearings seeing as if the pilot bearing is gone everything else is probably gonna follow shortly. Question about clutch though, what kind of clutch would you recommend for just daily street use and occasional drifting? I'm looking at the act clutch kit and exedy clutch kit just trying to figure out if the extra 200$ is worth it for the act. Its a completely stock 1988 vert
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I'll leave that up to the experts. When I replaced the original clutch assembly in my '89TII,
used all OEM parts.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I'll leave that up to the experts. When I replaced the original clutch assembly in my '89TII,
used all OEM parts.
all right, thanks for your help my friend
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If it means anything, my S4 clutch went at 163k with the first clutch... . The bearing was making a grinding sound.
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Originally Posted by Talixans
Question about clutch though, what kind of clutch would you recommend for just daily street use and occasional drifting? I'm looking at the act clutch kit and exedy clutch kit just trying to figure out if the extra 200$ is worth it for the act. Its a completely stock 1988 vert
might be helpful to say exactly which "kits" you're comparing.

also, i'm not a drifter, so let me put that out there; but i would imagine that even doing it occasionally would require a little more than just a stock replacement.
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Originally Posted by Talixans
170k original clutch lol
A less common failure but a possibility- the diaphragm spring on the pressure plate could have broken. The result would be you still having a pedal feel that resembles a working clutch but the pressure plate would no longer be releasing the disc.
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