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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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buying fmic......how big can i go

I know I can just go outside and measure my car and see just how big of an intercooler I can get but I don’t know about piping and ****. I am doing the piping myself. I just want someone’s opinion that has done something like this before. I just don’t want to get one that is so big that I have to cut a lot of my body and it just makes more and more problems with piping. If someone could just recommend a size that would be cool. Also has anyone bought from this site before, I have herd that these are good. Are there better ones out there for about the same cost. I know greedy is good and so it hks……its just that I cant afford the kit. I bet there are a lot of people like that here.


http://www.intercoolers.net/

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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Did not realize that it opened to that page. I am looking at the ones all the way to the left third one down.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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http://www.moparhead.50megs.com/

this is a huge one, its so cheap it might be worth a try to see if it will fit.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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i dont know where to get this one......why do you say it is so cheep it dost not say the price anywhere on the site. thanks anyway though
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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I'm selling my old "GTR" core that I was running in my car, PM me for more info.

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Sorry, but you are going to need to measure yourself because only YOU know:
1) Where you want to put it (in front of the bumper, behind the bumper, in place of the bumper, in front of the radiator, behind the radiator, horizontal mount, higher, lower, to one side or the other, etc.).
2) What you want to move to put it there (oil cooler, hood latch, battery, radiator, etc.)
3) What you are willing to cut or bend to install the assembly and/or plumbing (frame rails, bumper, brake ducts, hood latch, hood, cross-bracing, etc.).
4) How you want the plumbing run.

I suggest taking off the front end so you can see what you are really looking at, then measuring, and finally making a cardboard mock-up of what you THINK will fit just to make sure.

If you don't want to go through all this, then you have 3 choices:
1) Pay somebody else to do it.
2) Buy a kit that is guaranteed to fit and comes with instructions.
3) Keep the stock configuration.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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My question is this, how much do you think this will cost you to do by yourself? Remember to add everything in.

Intercooler-$300-500
Piping-$200?
silicone couplings-$50-100

Plus you will probably have to have some tabs welded on to install the intercooler, so maybe another $40 or so for aluminum welding.


My point is you are not going to save all that much money and the finished result could possibly not be as good as if you went with a kit.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
My point is you are not going to save all that much money and the finished result could possibly not be as good as if you went with a kit.
After seeing my friend's GReddy kit, I'm glad that I have a custom setup.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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I remember reading something about that. What is wrong with it? Mine fits fine.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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that IC in my post is from a cummins turbo disel and you can get it for less then $100 from a junk yard.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
I remember reading something about that. What is wrong with it? Mine fits fine.
Problems with GReddy in general:
The intercooler uses HEAVY cast end tanks. Unlike some of the better brands of intercoolers, GReddy does not offer any performance specifications.

My personal differences with the GReddy design:
I don't like the extruded tube design. Normally, this would be the choice for a lightweight unit, but given the heavy end tanks, this totally defeats the purpose. My huge Spearco IC assembly is made out of the sturdier bar & plate design, and is still about the same weight (or lighter) than the smaller GReddy 3-row assembly. This is sad.

Problems specifically with the GReddy 3-row IC kit that my friend bought for his 10AE:
Although the 3-row kit is designed for the S5, you would think that it would fit the S4 fairly well. However, you would be wrong. I think of a "kit" as something that requires no special fabrication or additional parts. In order to fit the S4 TII, the 3-row kit requires cutting off some of one tube, welding an extension onto another, making custom hangers (the stock ones don't fit), and totally cutting up the front end including the brake ducts, AND REMOVING THE BUMPER. Also, my friend didn't order the $300 tube with the BOV flange, but the kit does not include a non-BOV tube like the FD kit, so one needs to be fabricated. The kit did not include any directions other than number stickers on the tubing parts. There were various minor modifications required to other stock components in the engine bay, but that is to be expected to a certain degree.

My custom Spearco setup (parts & labor) is about the same price as the GReddy 3-row kit, not considering the extra parts and labor required to fit the GReddy 3-row into an S4. I'm not sure if the GReddy piping would fit better in an S5, but many of the other problems I noticed will remain even with an S5. Hopefully the 2-row kits are better than this, but I think that a custom setup like my Spearco IC is a better deal for the money, even with the added expense of custom plumbing.
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